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ReplyDeleteJim, I will miss your Gannett Blog. It was great to know about the company happenings. The bitching got old, but it was worth it for the real info.
ReplyDeleteI congratulate you and wish you well with Ibiza. I think that it is awesome that you are able to do something you enjoy. Maybe you could also start an entrepreneural (sp?) blog.
I think it is great that you have set yourself up, that you have so many options and arent' stuck like some of the rest of us.
BEST WISHES
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ReplyDeleteBABY YOU CAN WRITE MY BLOG
ReplyDeleteAsked a guy what he wanted to be
He said Jimmy, "Can't you see
I wanna be famous, a porn star in Spain
But you can do something on the plane"
Jimmy you can write my blog
Yes I'm gonna be a porn star
Jimmy you can write my blog
Down here in Ibiza
I told a guy that my prospects were good
And he said Jimmy, "It's understood
Working for corporate is all very fine
But I can show you a better time"
Jimmy you can write my blog
Yes I'm gonna be a porn star
Jimmy you can write my blog
Down here in Ibiza
Beep beep'm beep beep yeah
Jimmy you can write my blog
Yes I'm gonna be a porn star
Jimmy you can write my blog
Down here in Ibiza
I told that guy he could start right away
And he said, "Listen Jim I got something to say
I got no blog and it's breaking my heart
But I've found a blogger and that's a start"
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ReplyDeleteIBIZA SPAIN FOREVER
ReplyDeleteLet me end this blog, 'cause I'm going to Spain.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.
Ibiza, Spain forever.
Blogging is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.
It's getting hard to be someone but it all works out.
It doesn't matter much to me.
Let me end this blog, 'cause I'm going to Spain.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.
Ibiza, Spain forever.
No one I think is on my side, I mean I must be right and you’re wrong.
That is you can't you know tune in but it's all right.
That is I think it's fun to blog.
Let me end this blog, 'cause I'm going to Spain.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.
Ibiza, Spain forever.
Always no sometimes think it's me, but I don’t really know when it's a dream.
I think, er No, I mean, er Yes but you’re all wrong.
That is I simply I disagree.
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to Spain.
Nothing is real and nothing to get hung about.
Ibiza, Spain forever.
Ibiza, Spain forever.
Ibiza, Spain forever.
From Wikipedia's article about a traditional form of religious magic, called sin-eating:
ReplyDelete"The term sin-eater refers to a person who, through ritual means, would take on by means of food and drink the sins of a deceased person, thus absolving his or her soul and allowing that person to rest in peace. . . . Traditionally, it is performed by a beggar and certain villages maintained their own sin-eaters. They would be brought to the dying person's bedside, where a relative would place a crust of bread on the breast of the dying and pass a bowl of ale to him over the corpse. After praying or reciting the ritual, he would then drink and remove the bread from the breast and eat it, the act of which would remove the sin from the dying person and take it into himself."
Now, in place of sin, substitute emotions that include anger, desperation, fear, insecurity, sadness, bitterness, rage, guilt, loneliness, jealously, disappointment, hatred.
Then, imagine you're editing a blog, where readers are posting comments full of such destructive emotions at the rate of 50,000 to 60,000 per year.
Please ask yourself: How would you feel?
John Reinan said...
ReplyDelete4:08, you say you worked with Jim at USA Today and you call him a fraud. Yet you do it anonymously.
Who's the fraud?
5/24/2009 9:13 PM
You are the fraud, John Reinan, you are the fraud. 4:08 never once said in any way, sjape, form or fashion that he "...worked with Jim at USA Today..."
And who is John Reinan? I don't know you so you must a anonymous as well. Will the real John Reinan please stand up? Or is that Slim Shady?
John is a real and wonderful man.
ReplyDeleteThe nasty, mean spirited comments toward Jim makes me realize what exactly helped cause the demise of newspapers. You all need to stop acting like such small minded creeps--it's really disgusting.
ReplyDeletePCF is telling people that Memorial Day is not concidered a holiday For a Jersey PAPer so it doesn't qualify for the holiday delivery deals..Just another reason were in the trouble we are in....
ReplyDeleteNow, in place of sin, substitute emotions that include anger, desperation, fear, insecurity, sadness, bitterness, rage, guilt, loneliness, jealously, disappointment, hatred.
ReplyDeleteThen, imagine you're editing a blog, where readers are posting comments full of such destructive emotions at the rate of 50,000 to 60,000 per year.
Please ask yourself: How would you feel?
5/25/2009 8:53 AM
Also from Wikipedia:
"The term martyr is most commonly used today to describe an individual who sacrifices his or her life (or their personal freedom) in order to further a cause or belief for many."
Oh, please. You didn't do this for us. Don't even go there.
I would never have started the blog in the first place. I would have found something better to do making even more money and banked the 40 weeks of pay in the process. Then I would have accumulated even more FU money for added flexibility.
I don't for the life of me understand why you started this blog unless it was to practice up for your Ibiza gig. If that's the case I'm fine with that, it makes sense, just be honest. It wasn't for the employees you left behind when you chose to leave, not like the many that had to leave because they were laid off - and got A LOT less for it.
Or perhaps you started the blog because you were so angry at manaqgement. I can understand that as well. Like I said in the last paragraph, just be honest.
Where this blog began was very, very different frtom where it went leading up to and after the shareholder's meeting. The Joker's hat would have been very appropriate. Something happened and we'll never know because you'll never tell. Expecting Gannett to take you serious was quite unrealistic.
You're not a "sin-eater" and you're not an "emotion-eater." It would be nice if you were honest with us.
9:13 am: In general, I agree with you. But I would add the following:
ReplyDeleteI started Gannett Blog because, in the spirit of public-service journalism, I want to create a safe place, where employees and others can share their experience, strength and hope.
That was on Sept. 11, 2007 -- nearly a year before the layoffs, the freezing of the pension plan, etc. The blog's tone changed, most especially this past December, and I followed the majority of readers to where they took it.
Occasionally, I try to shift the tone back toward something neutral. But it continues to shift back to what's now the emotional default setting: anger, desperation, fear, insecurity, sadness, bitterness, rage, guilt, loneliness, jealously, disappointment, hatred. Those are entirely understandable emotions, given the company's prospects in this economy.
This blog has more than 10,000 unique visitors per month. By myself, I'm an insufficient counterweight. I'm now running out of options.
Finally, I did not start Gannett Blog as a means to launch the online community I'm working on now. If I'd had the Ibiza concept back in September 2007, I would have pursued it directly.
Thanks for the feedback. For me, that's the most honest you have been. And you can have the Annie parady gratus
ReplyDeleteI'm not "my boss said."
ReplyDeleteJust call me "trust me, I know."
1) There will be more layoffs. They will be handled on a property-by-property basis and will be connected to centralization efforts. It is necessary. It will start as the furloughs end.
2) Jim, good luck to you. This is an excellent decision for your own mental health, and it is WAY overdue. I can't stand to read the blog anymore because I can't take that much negativity into myself. Just imagine what it is doing to you! Your analogy is right on. Just cut the cord and begin the healing. You will be missed, but it is something you must do. The blog has become diseased, and your are definitely showing effects of the exposure.
10:01 am: I value your candor.
ReplyDeleteHey, Jim - I will miss your blog very much. It's a very sad day for those who are invested (emotionally) in Gannett. This was a place we could all come and vent, share news, share frustrations and laugh at ourselves and each other. I've always admired your ability to "turn the other cheek," so to speak - people are downright nasty. BUT I always figured that you, as a former reporter, were able to stand more abuse than I would be able to. When things got personal, I admired your moxy for leaving the hate up on the site, so we could see what abuse you were taking. Honestly, I think that people are just so emotionally charged that sometimes the hate comes out in nasty, hateful *anonymous* comments. I hope they aren't corporate plants, but maybe they are. I'm so sorry that the goons are winning. I'm so sorry for the abuse you endured. Either way, please know that you made our world a little brighter while you did this. I consider you a wonderful public servant, and I will always be grateful for this venue. Good luck to you.
ReplyDeleteGreat post, Jim. I'll be heartbroken when this blog goes, but you make a good case for closing it. You've done us all a huge service. Godspeed.
ReplyDelete9:13am, who wouldn't have started the blog and instead would have earned some FU money --- good for you! I assume you still are employed by Gannett, so you don't have any notion of the difficulty of finding a job that pays money, much less FU money. Regardless, Jim never played the role of martyr. We all came here; we all read what was posted; we all contributed to the tone and the news on this blog. He provided the forum (and did so in such a way that we are all welcome - even the negative posters). When he's gone, where will we go? What will be our virtual watercooler? I say, thanks, Jim. You made our lives a whole lot easier at Gannett.
ReplyDeleteJim, I second what 10:16 and 10:20 said. I still have an enormous amount of unresolved anger toward Gannett and toward one specific manager, but this blog has helped me deal with some of it and begin to move on.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that this might not be here for folks who have yet to experience the devastating feelings that can come with being laid off, because I know this blog has been a valuable resource for a lot of people trying to figure out how to deal with the aftermath and how to deal with Corporate. There is some very shady stuff going on and it needs to be exposed.
I hope there will be a way for the folks who need to connect throughout the country to still connect, because there can be strength in numbers. And there are a lot of us who need that strength.
Best wishes to you, Jim.
Gannett won! Da blog is dead.
ReplyDeleteHow will Bob Dickey spend his day if he doesn't have this blog to read?
ReplyDeleteJim,
ReplyDeleteThank you for giving those of us who lost a treasured career a place to gather and mourn. There is no other forum for that. I want you to know some good has come of this blog.
For me, personally, it serves as an occasional reminder that SOMEBODY cared about the thing I loved the most (next to my family, ofcourse).
Please find joy in your endeavor.
-A former Gannettoid and loyal reader
That's all very well, Jim, except for one thing.
ReplyDeleteYou never, not once, stepped in and urged the distraught, the disconsolate, the denouncers or the haters to soften their rhetoric, to be more reasonable despite their pain or to stop spewing venom.
Instead, just as you accused Gannett of doing by its "silence" over the gay-baiting, you tacitly approved, encouraged and abetted the hate-a-thon.
To complain now that this place became too much to deal with after you did nothing to control it is the height of hypocrisy. People were hurting and all they needed was someone they respect -- you -- to say hey, not every manager is evil, not every initiative is bogus.
But no, you joined the pile-on, acting like a petulant child when what we really needed here was an adult. That seems to be beyond you. Good luck in friendlier climes. Doing this was beyond you.
10:32 am:
ReplyDeleteYes, I am still employed by Gannett; however, you don't know everything. One thing you don't know is that I have been without a job before, in fact, more than once. I do understand the feeling.
The FU money I spoke of was the 40 weeks of compensation Jim earned. I for one would have found something, anything to do to earn money until I found the right job. I would have made the 40 weeks of compensation last much longer than 40 weeks and would have hopefully built that FU nestegg.
Where will you go for your water cooler? How about a REAL water cooler? Don't you have any real friends you can talk to about this sort of thing? If not, that's too bad and perhaps you should make some friends that understand.
I certainly have several friends to discuss work with and it works out quite well for me. This blog never could fill that need. And if you cannot make friends, perhaps you can still afford therapy? I'm serious, see someone if you don't have any friends and this is your outlet!!
This blog didn't make my life any easier, just more entertained. If it goes away I'll be happy to be rid of the car wreck mentality that kept me looking in every week or so to see what outlandish things were being said.
By the way, Jim did play the role of a martyr. He said many times that he was running this blog for us. Read the definition.
If all else fails and life is simply too miserable for you, think about running this blog yourself. That will give you an outlet you can actually control.
Jim
ReplyDeleteThe best things never last forever. Will miss the blog. Good luck on the next step in your life.
A retired Gannettoid
Jim,
ReplyDeleteSo sorry you're apparently leaving. You're efforts to keep 'em honest will be missed.
FWIW, my word is "unding"
Regarding the perverted comments that have ended up on this blog and the people who succeeded in pounding it into the ground, there's an interesting article in this week's NewsWatch by Yvonne Beasley at The Des Moines Register that reports how she is whipping the trolls, haters and delusional commentators into line.
ReplyDeleteDes Moines editor shows how active monitoring of comments pays off
http://gannett.com/go/newswatch/2009/may/nw0513-1.htm
Des Moines Register’s Yvonne Beasley shares her experience in handling comments online. As home page editor, Yvonne manages the home page during the earliest morning hours into mid-afternoon to make sure it has the right, most relevant content in the right places. And she manages the comments. Here, Yvonne shares the details of how she approaches her work.
By Yvonne Beasley, Home Page Editor, The Des Moines Register
The biggest thing we've done to nip problems in the bud is: I just scan every comment, when I can.
Yes, it's time-consuming, but it has paid off. Everyone has noticed improvement. I don't get to all of them, but most days I scan 85% of story comments. I do it in 10-minute chunks, whenever I can snag time.
Once I started reading all comments and immediately deleting bad ones, people began to learn what we were willing to have posted. Often they will come back within minutes and re-post their comment without the objectionable content.
(There's much, much more)
So done with this blog. What a fricking fraud.
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ReplyDeleteI'm confused: You are discontinuing this blog? Or, just not accepting money for it anymore and backing off a bit from it? Please clarify!!!
ReplyDeleteWhen Gannett News Service was around Gannett papers could get full coverage of the Indianapolis 500 through the Indy Star. Now that GNS is history most Gannett papers have to rely on AP -- and the difference in the coverage shows.
ReplyDeleteAlso, Gannett corporate must have mandated a pro-military/pro-war editorial for Memorial Day. Guess they didn't get the memo about the danger of worshipping the military.
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ReplyDeleteAnd posters ae calling Jim a nutter!
ReplyDeleteGet a feaking life you SNL/Mad TV writer wannabe!
Jim, don't end this blog...you do...then the ftards win.
Wow...... Just how off-subject can everyone get??
ReplyDeleteWhat I want to know is this: When and if Jim ends this blog, where will we THEN go to get news about Gannett - the real news - and vent our frustrations and share information?
What other Gannett employee and ex-employee sites are out there for us?????
Any one of you can start a blog. Who is willing to step up to the plate?
ReplyDelete+++++where will we THEN go to get news about Gannett - the real news - and vent our frustrations and share information?
ReplyDeleteWhat other Gannett employee and ex-employee sites are out there for us?????+++++
Oh please. How about managing your frustrations like an adult and turning those energies toward making your job, or your product, better?
As for real news, too rarely found here.
I do thank Jim for deleting the insipid "parodies." Thank you for that!
(Bloggers don't cry)
ReplyDelete(Bloggers don't cry)
Bloggers don't cry-yi-yi (they don't cry)
Bloggers cry (who said, they don't cry)
My girl said goodbye-yi-yi (my, oh, my)
My girl didn't cry (I wonder why)
(Silly boy) Told my girl we had to break up
(Silly boy) Thought that she would call my bluff
(Silly boy) Then she said to my surprise
Bloggers don't cry
Bloggers don't cry-yi-yi (they don't cry)
Big girls come on cry (who said, they don't cry)
Baby, I was cruel (I was cruel)
Baby, I'm a fool (I'm such a fool)
(Silly girl) Shame on you, your mama said
(Silly girl) Shame on you, you cried in bed
(Silly girl) Shame on you, you told a lie
Bloggers do cry
Bloggers don't cry-yi-yi (they don't cry)
Bloggers come on cry (that's just an alibi)
Bloggers don't cry
Bloggers don't cry
Bloggers don't cry
Bloggers don't cry.....
This is the end
ReplyDeleteBeautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
I’ll never write on your blog...again
Can you picture what will be
So limitless and free
Desperately in need...of some...blogger’s hand
In a...desperate land
Lost in a roman...wilderness of pain
And all the children are insane
All the children are insane
Waiting for the Ibiza rain, yeah
There’s danger on the edge of town
Ride the kings highway, baby
Weird scenes inside the gold mine
Ride the highway west, baby
Ride the snake, ride the snake
To the lake, the ancient lake, baby
The snake is long, seven miles
Ride the snake...he’s old, and his skin is cold
The west is the best
The west is the best
Get here, and well do the rest
The blue bus is callin us
The blue bus is callin us
Driver, where you taken us
The blogger awoke before dawn, he put his boots on
He took a face from the ancient gallery
And he walked on down the hall
He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he
Paid a visit to his brother, and then he
He walked on down the hall, and
And he came to a door...and he looked inside
Father, yes son, I want to blog about you
Mother...i want to...blog about you
Cmon baby, take a chance with us
Cmon baby, take a chance with us
Cmon baby, take a chance with us
And meet me at the back of the bloggin’ bus
Doin a blue rock,
On a bloggin’ bus
Doin a blue rock
Cmon, yeah
Blog, blog, blog, blog, blog, blog
This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
It hurts to set you free
But youll never follow me
The end of laughter and soft lies
The end of nights we tried to lie
This is the end
Hi, 12:30 - this is 10:32. I enjoy your suggestion that I get some friends, but honestly, who can understand the "Gannett Way" better than other Gannettoids? And who else can share the GCI info that I want? The funny thing is... you're probably the friend who everyone rolls their eyes about behind his back because you won't shut the f up about work. So, go on thinking you're higher and mightier than I am because I found a little free online therapy here. But honestly... your snark is not cool. or cute.
ReplyDeleteGood riddance Jim. Hope your Ibiza blog flames out, too.
ReplyDeleteJim, I'll miss you. Lots. But I want to point out to you: there appears to be ONE person on multiple threads who writes nasty, mean, annoying stuff. He writes in the same style each time. I hope you know that the majority of us heart you.
ReplyDeleteJim,
ReplyDeleteLiving well is the best revenge. Whatever is driving you to start a new chapter ... so be it.
Best of luck.
"I started Gannett Blog because, in the spirit of public-service journalism, I want to create a safe place, where employees and others can share their experience, strength and hope."
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to strength and hope? I've never seen anything regarding hope, only doom and gloom. I don't know that you can get away with saying you took it where readers wanted it to go. In fact, you provoked the direction of this blog many times with your rhetoric and insinuations.
Some of what you said is true but much more of the what the poster you are responding to said was the real truth. You just got our of control and didn't even know it.
Jim... this is terribly sad for those of us who have worked for Gannett for many years and now find that we won't have a forum to get unfiltered information.
ReplyDeleteLet's face it... for a company in the information business, Gannett does a terrible job communicating with its employees. The problem might be that Gannett actually thinks that it does well in this category.
I hope that you will consider letting a team of people run the blog so that it will exist forever. The blog might even be more effective if corporate doesn't know who is in charge.
By closing it down, they've won.
And I don't like the sound of that at all.
I do wish you the best. It was a great ride, and I think you did well.
So first corporate trashes Jim. Failing that, they trash the readers and posters, posing as readers and posters.
ReplyDeletePretty clever way to drive away traffic. But in some way, small or large, I hope you are reminded every day that real people are suffering for the policies and management you defend.
It's not business as usual when you fire 2,000 people for political reasons, fail continually to innovate and reward your same-ol, same-ol top brass with tarnished bling and huge bonuses.
If you're defending them, you obviously are not one of them (I doubt they care what any of us think of them) -- and kharma is a bitch. I hope you're next.
Folks, Jim, the founder of this blog,has continually to suffer terrible abuse from quite a few idiots who've posted. I cannot understand what Jim's personal preferences and his personal life have anything whatsoever to do with the job he has done here! Seems to me that most of these abuse posts have (probably) come from Gannet HQ drones who've been involved in a campaign to stop exposing the evil Gannett. Or, from Koolaid drinkers at the local newspapers who have been kept around because they are ass-kissering incompetents. If it means anything at all to you, let me apologize for the abuse you've endured here since the inception of this blog since none of the morons who did this would ever think about what they'v done to you.
ReplyDeleteNow that the blog is ending. Everyone tell all!
ReplyDeleteJim,
ReplyDeleteAre you closing this blog?
I hope you keep this blog going for a few more weeks, to see us through this round of layoffs that are coming up. These undoubtedly will be the most painful layoffs we have seen so far, and somewhat far-reaching. We need a site that monitors them as they are unveiled.
ReplyDeleteDear former boss,
ReplyDeleteI have not been able to recover from the December layoff. Not at my age. Not in this market. And not coming from the business I came from. I've tried like hell to reinvent myself. Left no stone uncovered, looked for silver linings, but it just isn't working out. With each passing day, I am getting older and becoming less employable. My savings are going down the drain.
I want you to know this. There doesn't appear to be a happy ending in my case. As you enjoy your cushy retirement or whatever it is you're doing now, I am scrounging around for pocket change, just trying to hold onto my modest house and put some food on the table. Where the hell did you think I was going to go when you all but fired me? And why, after years of loyal service, sacrifice and versatility, did you select me when you had so many others to choose from who were better positioned in life and in their careers to weather the storm? Surely, you didn't believe I was the most expendable. If you did, check out how the old shop is holding up in my absence. So what was the reason for picking me and do you sleep well at night knowing what you've done? Maybe I am only one victim in your rather long career, but you have to know in your heart of hearts how wrong it was to lay me off. You haven't reached out to me, not even a simple hello or well wishes, which tells me you are feeling some guilt.
If you are out there, reading this blog, I just thought you should know that one of your last senseless acts has all but ruined lives (not just mine). You don't have to witness what has happened. It's my life, not yours. Maybe that makes it easier. You always did manage in denial of many things. Maybe that's how you live your life, too.
Sincerely,
Your former employee
Jim,
ReplyDeleteDespite the nasty comments that are constantly placed on this website, I found it to be very informative and useful in the last quarter of 2008.
This website is where I found out about they coming layoffs and prepared myself on the layoff that I knew I would be a victim of.
There are many properties that do not conduct themselves with the solid ethics that are pushed upon the employees.
I was nine months pregnant and out on disability when I received the news by mail that I had become a victim of the mass layoffs in December.
Without this blog, I would not have been able to prepare my family and myself both financially and emotionally for what was to come as there is virtually no communication from management at any of the properties.
Good luck on your future endevors.
To Shirley in Texas at 2:16 p.m., thanks for the Des Moines info and link. The sad thing is, Jim is only one person and there's no way he could keep up this blog like that. Similar to the legion of smaller newspapers where most of us who care about the print product/Web site wear way too many hats to keep up on comments, too, in any meaningful way. I'm not complaining so much as pointing out a simple truth.
ReplyDeleteafter midnight east coast time and no new thread.... is it over?
ReplyDeleteand instead of first, am i perhaps ... last?
And posters ae calling Jim a nutter!
ReplyDeleteGet a feaking life you SNL/Mad TV writer wannabe!
Jim, don't end this blog...you do...then the ftards win.
5/25/2009 5:55 PM
Now that was just plain mean. I may be practicing for my second career.
"But I want to point out to you: there appears to be ONE person on multiple threads who writes nasty, mean, annoying stuff. He writes in the same style each time."
ReplyDeleteHow can you tell the difference around here between what is and is not nasty, mean, annoying stuff?
As to style, with so many writers couldn't they just alter their style? What is my style like? Do I have style?
Thanks for stopping by, Bob Dickey. And no, you don't have style. Peace.
ReplyDelete10:24--I fervently hope something works out for you. Most of us over 50 who still have jobs know that your fate could be ours, and we lose some sleep and add some grey hairs every day.
ReplyDeleteThere is a cost to society of layoffs and RIFs that isn't food stamps or unemployment. Too bad the MBA's can't figure out a way to quantify emotional stress and put it in a spreadsheet.
Thanks for stopping by, Bob Dickey. And no, you don't have style. Peace.
ReplyDelete5/26/2009 10:38 AM
Bite me. I wish I had Dickey's cash! I do have style and lot's of it. But I'll not share with you!