Friday, March 07, 2008

Debate: Does Lawson require falsified time sheets?

From a fresh comment on my post about Gannett's new Lawson payroll system: "Are time sheets legal documents of some kind? If so, is intentionally falsifying hours at best unethical? ... So could you tell your boss that you're going to only report factual hours worked? After all if you can't be truthful on a time sheet how can you be expected to be truthful in stories? Barring that I would keep a duplicate time sheet for my own records and document, document, document discussions with supes who tell me to falsify records.''

Join the debate, in the original post.

[Image: Time Clocks USA, via this post]

9 comments:

  1. Some sites use Kronos, where the employee sticks a finger in the machine, which reads the biometrics.
    This is done as you enter the building and leave the building. (If you get called to a fire in the middle of the night you have to file an amendment sheet.)
    This does two things: It is very difficult to falsify time sheets and, MOST IMPORTANT, it shifts work from the shrinking, hourly paid accounting departments to the ever-expanding workloads of the low level managers.

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  2. A thought for all those Gannett employees who are working extra hours without getting extra pay:

    Start documenting your hours, fools. Put them in your appointment book. Write it down .. In: 9 a.m. Our: 9 p.m.

    For the reality is, your notes taken every day will support your claim when the National Labor Relations Board investigates claims of falsification of time cards. Or when they look for employees categorized as exempt managers who supervise no one.

    Add your notes when your editor suggests that you need to finish your project on overtime and they'll give you time off later (except it should be taken during the week when you worked over).

    Just a thought for the walking wounded.

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  3. Here is a thought. How about you all stop whinning and simply fill out your timecard correctly. Grow a pair. Name a person who was termianted for filling out their timecard correctly.

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  4. Sometimes I wonder what type of personality people who keep on whining and complaining have.

    These people should quit and move on.

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  5. Nice to see the growing representation of kool-aid drinkers here. The problem is not only the people filling out time sheets. The problem is the switching of people working over-time/changing job title to asst. XXX editor - sometimes without consent of the person. Then requiring those people to work obscene hours to get the job done. THIS HAPPENS.

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  6. Then do something about it. It would only happen to me once and I'd be seeking a remedy. And I've got your kool aid right here you lemming. Grow some balls.

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  7. I'm exempt and I'm just going to write down my correct hours worked per day. If I only get paid for 37.5 a week, the Lawson system should have that programmed in somehow. I won't sign my name to 37.5 if I work 50 and nobody else should either.

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  8. Sounds like you are an exceptional exempt employee. Pass the crying towel.

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  9. Sadly, the problem is not filling out these ridiculous time sheets. It's the fact that HR has changed the way time sheets are done too many times. Each time is supposed to the best. Those who make these decisions fail to realize that although the new plan may look good on paper, that's all it does.

    HR makes all of these unnecessary changes but they aren't the ones that have to deal with the garbage that these new changes create.

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