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Sunday, September 29, 2013
Phoenix | Local 58-M set for contract vote today
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the only other gannett site with colorliner experienced pressmen is Nashville ! yes a press is a press but there are still differences that will need to be learned by the replacements.
ReplyDeleteGannett has a one size fits all mentality, no matter the differences, Gannett will jam that square peg into the round hole to prove a point, no matter the carnage or consequences their actions cause. They are always right and will believe this right up until (and long after) they shutter the building. The "Crown Jewel" of Eugene Pulliam's Central Newspapers has been parted out, piece by piece since being acquired by Gannett in 2000. This is what happens when absolute power corrupts absolutely.
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I have worked for Gannett in Press Operations on and off for 30 years, union and non-union shops. I can run any offset press, from any Goss metro, colorliner, headliner, newsliner, you name it. Man Roland, Mitsubishi, shall I go on, you can be replaced with Gannet'ts loaner program, been there done that. Its a cake walk for press Ops like me. So don't get to cocky guy. We are all replaceable
DeleteHP
"So don't get to[o] cocky guy"
DeleteNot "cocky" at all.... guy. Not sure how you came to that conclusion but I agree with your post. In effect, we are so much furniture.
5:16 Sounds like a true Gannetter if ever was one. That Gannett's loaner program sounds like a great job reference, how's that working for ya
DeleteI made Thousands over the years working in Production as a loaner. It was great, and its nor over
DeleteHuge difference between a loaner & a scab. I've known both.
DeleteYes there will be a voting down of the contract (my humble opinion), Not that it wasn't expected with the additional take away of the choice less new insurance plan that they are blaming on the administration of our fine president. I personally ditched the Gannet un insurance plan over a year ago, I am now buying on the private market. I pay $500 a year more than what I was paying to Gannett and after $1500 my expenses are covered 100%. Their insurance was a rip off, they say they subsidized, but the subsidy probably is for the Executive Cadillac plan we minions don't get. So much for Same as Contract language we have, it is not same as. That is a sham.
ReplyDelete11:37 please tell us the name of the plan and the company that provides it so everyone can save money.
ReplyDeleteAetna
DeleteAetna?????? Haaaaaaaa, I needed that.
DeleteIf the company pays more than 100mm for it's employees how is it a rip off. Might not like it but tHats a lotta cash.
ReplyDeletePressman indeed voted down contract today. Will now wait and see if company goes back to table to continue bargaining in good faith. LOL
ReplyDeleteGannett needs to start bargaining in good faith. Returning to the table meeting after meeting with no changes from their original proposals, all the while claiming that Union negotiators are the guilty ones bargaining in bad faith. Intimidation is not good faith bargaining its tactical negotiating. The Union would be wise to use some other methods of tactical strategies when they return to the table,
DeleteThe vote unanimously passed to turn down the shit contract given by gannett the corporate greed just amazes me it will never stop.this is our one and only chance to put a stop to hemorrhaging Gannett is continually trying to pass on to the little guy as there pay and bonuses continue to go up.its time for a working strike its time to picket the advertisers its about time they feel a financial burdan by losing advertisers or bu a paper not getting out .time for a sick out let the office guys figure out and run the press go local 58
ReplyDeleteis it true that the offer contained:
ReplyDelete10% pay cut
give back 5 vacation days
eliminate manning
give back 2 holidays??
what else??
taking chairman and board
Deletetaking premium pay for o.s. duties
elimination of core groups ( maint. and N.Y. Times)
The REAL question should be WHAT'S left......company doing whatever and whenever they want. The S.S. Gannett casting off from Phoenix.....All Aboard
The crew concept is gone. Without the manning one person will be working on every press in the line.
Delete"While Nero fiddles, Rome burns"!! As it is with The Az Republic Newspaper. Once a proud and professional entity, Gannett has plundered and dissected all that was once a top notch media company. While mgmnt sucks what little life there is left in this newspaper by cutting our pay, for a second consecutive contract, stealing our vacation time which we have all earned over the many years of loyal service, and treating us like third world idiots! Dale Carpenter and his ilk will fail as the brotherhood of Local 58 M is stronger, more determined than ever, and much wiser than we are given credit for! Enough is ENOUGH and we have had ENOUGH!!! Bring it on Carpenter!!!
ReplyDeletePicket the advertisers of the Az Republic!!! Let people know what a bunch of low class scum and ruthless people we are actually working for!! Carpenter is nothing more than a hateful, vengeful snake. And he calls himself a Christian!! Ha ha ha!!! Hey, Dale, look the word up or better yet, attend church some Sunday and see what REAL Christians are like!!!
ReplyDeleteTwo Words; Magic Underwear
DeleteGives you B*lls of steel.
It boils down to this Gannett is a union busting company. They always preach (preacher Dale C) same as benefits. Yet benefits are just taken away from union people. Vacation, pay, while the big girl's and boy's get bonuses and stock options. Taking furloughs mean nothing just ask the electricians. Gannett will ride this horse into the ground and that's a fact.
ReplyDeleteSame as, get sick and you are not union and the company supports you 100% pay. If you are Union and get sick you get 60% pay. Same As my *ss.
DeleteOne of the concessions Gannett wants is MLK Day. If everyone recalls, The Arizona Republic championed a paid holiday for the slain civil rights leader... Lots of ink was given to the subject. A non-paid state holiday just would not do ala then vilified Gov. Evan Mecham. The Republic pushed hard for this one and lead by example, bestowing the paid holiday on every Republic employee. A truly visionary newspaper.
ReplyDeleteNow Gannett, in all it's idiocy, thinks no one will notice... Hey, Arizona has got the Super Bowl twice now, we don't need that MLK day anymore.
wonder if we'll see anything in print Unfortunately, the real reason for this holiday was getting the Super Bowl to Arizona, a
Go on strike, I will be the first Pressman to volunteer to go and run your colorliners, I will get my regular pay and pay from working at your place , plus a daily food bonus as well as a big bonus if it ever gets settled. I'm ready to rake it in
ReplyDeletePressman for hire.
Sounds like you've done this before. You must be so proud.
DeleteThe Scab
Deleteby Jack London, (1876-1916)
After God had finished the rattlesnake, the toad, and the vampire, he had some awful substance left with which he made a scab.
A scab is a two-legged animal with a corkscrew soul, a water brain, a combination backbone of jelly and glue.
Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.
When a scab comes down the street, men turn their backs and angels weep in heaven, and the devil shuts the gates of hell to keep him out.
No man (or woman) has a right to scab so long as there is a pool of water to drown his carcass in, or a rope long enough to hang his body with.
Judas was a gentleman compared with a scab. For betraying his master, he had character enough to hang himself. A scab has not.
Esau sold his birthright for a mess of pottage.
Judas sold his Savior for thirty pieces of silver.
Benedict Arnold sold his country for a promise of a commision in the british army.
The scab sells his birthright, country, his wife, his children and his fellowmen for an unfulfilled promise from his employer.
Esau was a traitor to himself; Judas was a traitor to his God; Benedict Arnold was a traitor to his country.
A scab is a traitor to his God, his country, his family and his class.
Author --- Jack London (1876-1916)
NO SCABS!
There not our Colorliners, nor yours. You might be a great pressman or loaner or whatever your called, but i will be the first to watch you try to run those presses. Won't even have to pay me, cause with all cuts and lack of maint. they shouldn't even be called presses anymore. So be careful what you wish for, Local 58M has dedicated and professional members, that is why papers still roll off the dock.
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DeleteYou are an irritation on the skin of hard working people...a SCAB!! Tell me how you feel after working with other scabs like yourself (3-4 guys on a press) for $92.56 a week, in what is becoming nothing more than a dirty, unkept work place. Be careful what you wish for... But people like you probably get just what you deserve!! a REAL man would at least sign his name!!!
DeleteLou,
DeleteWe both know two pressmen that tried to swim with the sharks of Gannett and what happened to them. They were used for a time, then spit out. But the kicker is that they were shocked that it happened to them. We warned them, told them what to expect; Gannett dangles the trinkets of pseudo-power, they bite down hard, and then wind up with neither Company or Union. And these are the self proclaimed smartest people in the room!
Hey 315 I hope they will give you good health insurance and a bodyguard.. Would really suck to have to spend all that money your going to rake in on medical bills you piece of sh** I just hope the brick I throw smacks you in the forehead
Deletedoes carpenter bring his bible to the bargaining table?
ReplyDeleteNo. He checks it at the door along with his conscience.
DeleteDale carpenter and his upper management are nothing more than scabs themselves they must maintain there income and bonuses at the expense or the working class blue collar worker there pride there joy is nothing more than corporate greed its what they live for they have the super bowl they have no need or desire to support the martin luther king Dale carpenter is not black nor was he ever repressed like the black man but he sure does want to run the az republic like we are all his slaves
ReplyDeletedon't you know, carpenter is a southerner ! the more money he cuts and saves the bigger his bonus ! Before coming to gannett he worked in non union papers.
ReplyDeleteDale carpenter otherwisekknown as yes sir massa. Proclaimed christian (when to his own benefit) will tell you i have to reduce your title and pay but its ok because i prayed about it and god told meit was ok if i didnt i would not be able to get my bonus.what kind of christian goes into negotiations and screams at the top of his lungs and proceeds to tell a union member you want to go you want to take me on.well the kind of Christian that is only a bible thumper when its convenient for him.what a piece of shit dale is
ReplyDeleteFor those not informed, Dale Carpenter has brought the criticism of his faith in God on himself. He proclaims publicly how Christian he is. I think he is trying to convince himself, because he has proven to us he is not.
DeleteSo If you think these people are unjust in attacking him, Please keep in mind, When you try to cast yourself off as someone you are not, you most certainly will be outed.
I wonder how Dale Carpenter justifies in his own mind working for a company that wants to erase a holiday for slain civil rights leader Rev, Martin Luther King, Jr.?
Deletewhere is Bob K when you need him ?
ReplyDeleteIt was mentioned that Carpenter shouted and dared a Union negotiator to "take him on"??? He should have been fired right then and there and brought up on Federal charges. I know you're reading all of this Carpenter...or you have some pussy minion reading it gor you... If you think you're man enough or big enough to take one of my Brothers on...sign onto this site and man up one more time...go ahead...shout at me and dare me to take you on...I'm just itching to expell pent up frustrations!!!!
ReplyDeleteGive me a break about Bob K. he was as big a jerk as Dale. Neither one came to the table to negotiate so please do not use this term when speaking about Gannett.
ReplyDeleteAs far as MLK you people need to call the Rev. Al to keep this day. In reality its BS because Gannett has not taken it away from any other union that I'm aware of. Its the old smoke and mirror game. Simply tell them you will be contacting and do contact the black civic leaders to ask them to have people cancel Gannett's paper and digital service and boycott channel 12. You need to get your shit together if your going to get anything from these people plain and simple.
God will get you for not respecting Gannett I will see you in the meeting.
DeleteDale Carpenter
Dale, Read the Book,
ReplyDeleteJust two off top of my head, Proverbs 17:16 and James 2:2-4. Pratice your preaching
gracia and corporate folks coming to visit phx this month. good time for the pressmen to show your stuff !!
ReplyDeleteWould you know dates they plan to be here?
Deletenot sure, late October, will try to get exact dates
Deletelast week of Oct.
DeleteMany employers are surprised to learn that employees have a “presumptive right” to display pro-union messages on shirts, badges, or buttons while working, even when the employer finds the message objectionable.
ReplyDeleteThe National Labor Relations Act (NLRA or the Act) protects associational rights of “non-union” employees as well as “union” employees.
“Employees” covered by the Act can include almost any employee except “supervisors.”
Section 7 gives covered employees the right to engage in concerted activities.
“Concerted activity” is any activity by individual employees who are united in pursuit of a common goal. To find an employee’s activity to be “concerted,” the action must be engaged in with or on the authority of other employees.
The definition of concerted activity encompasses those circumstances where individual employees seek to initiate, induce, or prepare for group action as well as actions by individual employees bringing truly group complaints to the attention of management.
The activities must be “concerted” before they can be “protected” by the NLRA.
Section 8 of the NLRA provides:
“It shall be an unfair labor practice for an employer to interfere with, restrain, or coerce employees in the exercise of the rights guaranteed in [Section 7].”
In essence, an employer’s retaliatory conduct against an employee because of that employee’s protected concerted activity violates the rights guaranteed by Section 7 of the NLRA.
what happened to the union chairman in phx??
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