A suburban New York City residence pinpointed on a controversial handgun permit database published last month by The Journal News was burglarized Saturday, and the burglars' target was the homeowner's gun safe, according to a newspaper report.
The owner was not home when the burglary occurred, according to a law enforcement source cited by Newsday. The victim, who is in his 70s, told Newsday that he did not want to comment yesterday while the police investigation continues.
The Journal News published the names and addresses of gun permit holders in a map three weeks ago, after getting the information from public documents obtained through open-records laws. The map and accompanying story set off a nationwide debate that pit the rights of permit holders and journalists.
The Journal News published the names and addresses of gun permit holders in a map three weeks ago, after getting the information from public documents obtained through open-records laws. The map and accompanying story set off a nationwide debate that pit the rights of permit holders and journalists.
"A law enforcement source" told Newsday. Enough said.
ReplyDeleteNewsday got hornswoggled. Should have figured that out before going with information from one source.
DeleteClicked on LoHud's "comments" on their gun map story and I got this: "Unfortunately, that page could not be found." Couldn't find a story on the break in, either. Anybody else?
ReplyDeleteThanks thanks JN. You've helped the criminals, who will always find a way to be armed. JN, you are no friend of the law abiding.
ReplyDeleteThey sold paper though!$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
DeleteGentlemen (and women), start your lawsuits.
ReplyDeleteThe News 12 report was very damning. A resident on the block that was interviewed said this was the first burglary since he moved there in 1997. Meanwhile, the burglar went right to gun rack.
6:57 - check the video. The 70-year-old man whose house was robbed acknowledges that the crime was committed.
http://westchester.news12.com/news/white-plains-home-on-handgun-permit-database-burglarized-1.4442333
Not a word of this crime on Lohud. The hiding and hunkering down continues. This aspect of the debacle has now become a story in itself. Is this how those who preach First Amendment rights should behave?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wGBqkzn24k&fb_source=message
If the poor guy only had Blue Balls Banikarim standing guard on the perimeter, I bet that would have scared away the thugs, lol!
ReplyDeleteA ladder was used to gain entry to the second floor? Excuse me, but these thieves knew more about this residence than any gun map would provide. I am not buying the gun map theory. Unless this map said guns are kept in a safe on the second floor.
ReplyDeleteUnless that was simply the quickest and easiest way to enter the house without being seen from the street or by the neighbors. A lot of folks lock their first floor doors and windows, but are less careful with the upper levels.
DeleteSo the first floor windows are unbreakable? Sorry, we are going to find out there was some kind of relationship/familiarity between the burglars and the victim.
DeleteWhat a ridiculous, unsubstantiated leap 11:52…one hopes you delivery the news versus write it.
DeleteI guess the term "second-story man" is just too ancient for some people.
DeleteYou seriously think it is more unobtrusive to use a ladder to access a second floor window than to gain access from a ground level, potentially hidden entrance? Seriously?
DeleteI just want to say that I said this would happen (and probably a lot more people) in my blog What Burns My Bacon: http://bit.ly/RlEIe3
ReplyDeleteAs a journalist, I think it was irresponsible to publish the names and addresses of gun owners. If there had been a rational reason that I could get behind I would. But for me, the newspaper never gave a real reason why they ran this map.
Now someone's home has been broken into and whether or not it was because of this map it does show the Journal in a poor light and now it is opened to more criticism, thus hurting their credibility and having more doubt its objectivity.
Besides, attacking legal gun owners is like going after senior citizens because some idiot overdosed on prescription medication.
What credibility?
DeleteWhere is the class action law suit?
DeleteNewsday story was wrong:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.lohud.com/article/20130114/NEWS02/301140080/White-Plains-police-Burglary-s-connection-Journal-News-gun-permit-map-pure-speculation-?odyssey=mod|breaking|text|Frontpage
Hardly Newsday was wrong. After 12 hours the JN reported this and it was all spin on their part even throwing in 2011 crime stats from White Plains. WPPD commissioner Chong said it was speculation so far, but they are paying attention to the map. I notice the JN didn't go into the neighborhood, talk to the neighbors, or the victims to see what type of neighborhood it was. They can't. They are not welcome and this shows how badly damaged the JN has become in Westchester co.
ReplyDeleteNewsday was wrong. Period. They've now put up an AP story on their site that is correct. There's a reason AP didn't move this story yesterday. And why are burglary stats spin? Might have saved Newsday a little of the egg on their face if they'd looked into the stats.
Deleteits spin cause they are not reporting the actual crime but stats to once again protect themselves. There was a break in, the house was listed on the JN site, there is speculation that his crime is a result of the map. All mentioned in News 12 and Newsday. Nothing wrong with those facts. But again, why didn't the JN go into the neighborhood and report from there, where is the interview with the neighbors, person who owned the home?
ReplyDeleteAnd while LoHud has exercised its right to publish public information, the public is now exercising ITS right to protest the Media-Governmental Complex, albeit illegally though the mail.
ReplyDeleteI love the term "non-toxic fecal matter". Some people might refer to the original story by the same phrase.
http://www.lohud.com/article/20130111/NEWS02/301110047/Suspicious-package-sent-Journal-News-editor-s-home-contained-fecal-matter
Jim enjoys non-toxic fecal matter. But he prefers the toxic kind.
DeleteDid you know he taints people's lunches? He is banned from all buffets.
He also likes to eat and throw turds, not necessarily in that order.
Does it really surprise anyone that a "Gannett" newspaper followed a left wing strategy by outing legal gun owners . The only thing that will hurt them is a boycott of their pravda puppet print.
ReplyDeleteNewsday story has been linked by Drudge Report.
ReplyDeleteDrudge ought to be linking to the "oops" version:
Deletehttp://newyork.newsday.com/westchester/journal-news-gun-database-being-monitored-in-connection-with-white-plains-burglaries-1.4446168
This is hardly an "oops" version. It has all the meat and potatoes of the original report with more reaction.
DeleteA burglary in the gun safe of a house on the interactive gun map that published a couple of weeks before in a neighborhood that hasn't had a burglary in 20 years should be the most obvious of indictments -- even for the delusional, hunkered down pretend journalists at Low-Hud.
I happen to live in that neighborhood, and my house was burglarized in October. Someone (a reporter maybe?) Should check with the police before running information obtained from a neighbor who's obviously angry about the map being published.
Delete6:06 did you read the story? Apparently not. But let's not let the facts get in the way. Newsday sure didn't.
ReplyDeleteHow dare anyone affiliated with one of the most irresponsible and incompetent media outlets in modern history cast aspersions on such an established and outstanding news source as Newsday.
DeleteDumbest post ever, 9:05.
DeleteNo.
DeleteDumbest decision ever (publishing the interactive gun map).
Latest: There will be a rally outside the Westchester County Courthouse tomorrow demanding the Journal News removed "the map."
ReplyDeleteLatest News 12 report on the burglary apparently caused by the map:
http://westchester.news12.com/news/gun-map-criticism-grows-after-white-plains-robbery-1.4446656
White Plains Daily Voice: "Burglary Draws Link to Pistol Permit Map":
ReplyDeletehttp://whiteplains.dailyvoice.com/police-fire/white-plains-burglary-draws-link-pistol-permit-map
In the wake of a deplorable decision by the Journal News to publish the names and addresses of law-abiding citizens with gun permits, a home was targeted by burglars attempting to steal the guns.
ReplyDeleteThe victim of the crime would have a strong case for suing the Journal News?
None of that happened. Try to contain your paranoia.
DeleteCan you say deny, hide and be delusional? That's the Journal News' strategy for dealing with this national crisis it created by its incompetence.
DeleteJames O'Keefe's Project Veritas just posted a great satirical piece on the Westchester Journal News's gun map, in which some of their employees got punked:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wt1Zy_ASNyA
Unless and until police state that the burglar or burglars confess to using the gun map to target the residence all this speculation is a bunch of horseshit. I can't believe there are experienced journalists posting here. What do we know so far. A house was burglarized. This house appears on the map. However, one doesn't necessarily conclude that A happened because of B.
ReplyDeleteHere's what amazes me about this thread. You've got all sorts of people upset about total speculation as to whether the map was tied to the burglary. It might have been, but there is no evidence at this point to confirm that.
ReplyDeleteHowever, no one seems upset about news reports that spell out that this guy has guns, he's 70 years old, here's a picture of his house and, oh, by the way, the gun safe is located on the second floor. (Maybe on follow-ups they can print a schedule for when no one will be home, or where he hides the key to the back door.)
Nor is anyone upset that a competing newspaper used a headline to make a non-existent connection to the map. Who, other than the reporter and the headline writer, provided the speculation that the burglary was tied to the map? Police sure didn't.
Their headline should have been: Newsday finds way to stick it to a competitor.
Many on this thread are showing their anger toward Gannett rather than providing any intelligent criticism.
Where's the "like" button?
DeleteAlso, please note that the Newsday reporter, as well as his wife, are former TJN employees.
So what's your point, 9:09? You think she told him over dinner, "Honey, could you take down TJN?" If you know something about an agenda here, bring it. Otherwise, STFU. For someone who's got a problem with speculation, you sure do roll around in it.
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ReplyDeleteIf the poor guy only had Blue Balls Banikarim standing guard on the perimeter, I bet that would have scared away the thugs,
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