Wednesday, December 03, 2008

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  1. Jim12/02/2008 11:37 PM

    Hi, there! How's it going?

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  2. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:38 PM

    Wednesday is Dec 3.

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  3. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:40 PM

    How many "Got news, or a question" threads will be needed today.

    Over/under is 4.

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  4. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:40 PM

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  5. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:44 PM

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  6. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:46 PM

    anyone have more specific info on Phx? My spouse is safe (this time) but have heard of two friends who were let go, fear for others.

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  7. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:46 PM

    I really want to go to sleep. I just can't.

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  8. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:49 PM

    Dang, I was censored!

    Larry Flint to the rescue!!!!!!!

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  9. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:51 PM

    Az Republic. I heard two designers, three photographers, one artist, three copy editors, one sports reporter, four feature reporters,one assignment editor and the newsroom CCI tech department got wacked.

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  10. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:52 PM

    I am in Indy and we know nothing yet. D-day must be in the morning.

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  11. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:52 PM

    11:47 PM I know another blog that would be great for that stuff. Try this Gannett Blog.

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  12. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:55 PM

    Phoenix here...

    Had some Panda Express for dinner. Fortune cookie read: "Soon you will encounter a whole new world of opportunity."

    How omniscient...

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  13. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:56 PM

    Same with us in Burlington, Indy.

    Although we have a few clues, nuthin' official yet. We did report that the local TV station laid off three today. And their privately owned.

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  14. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:57 PM

    I believe Parsippany, N.J. (listed as Morristown on this blog) has lost 20 people, 13 or 14 today and the rest via attrition. Nearly all of those were from Circulation, plus an IT person, a couple of page production guys, two part-time obit clerks, and the receptionist who had 20-plus years at the paper.

    The newsroom emerged almost unscathed again. But what about the next time? There can't be many more people left in the "downstairs" departments.

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  15. Anonymous12/02/2008 11:58 PM

    "they're' privately owned. (sted "their")

    Long day.

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  16. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:00 AM

    What amazes me is how some boss's in Jersey are now bad mouthing the employees they lost.....

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  17. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:01 AM

    Things can't be all bad at AP in Neptune. They installed a brand new $3k TV for the Executive Editor on Monday. Now he has something to do other than playing with his DS all day.

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  18. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:01 AM

    At least 10 people were laid off at the Courier Post in Cherry Hill, possibly 16. It's expected more will be announced tomorrow. At least four were voluntary.

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  19. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:02 AM

    will the receptionist be replaced, or who will answer the phones ?

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  20. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:05 AM

    Here is some information about cuts at The Des Moines Register. There is speculation here that layoffs will be more severe than announced. http://iowaindependent.com/9168/developing-des-moines-register-cuts-more-jobs-today#more-9168

    I heard 5-6 in the advertising department(sales) got cut, and 5 so far in the newsroom. From those I heard about I can't believe it. They are great workers!

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  21. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:05 AM

    Three photographers? Four features reporters in AZ? Gulp. . .Could be rough for some of my friends in Indy this morning. Best luck.

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  22. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:06 AM

    Any news about Springfield or Mountain Home?

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  23. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:12 AM

    11:55 That is a great fortune! When I was one of 1000 laid off in August, I took a couple of weeks to rest and recoup from all the stress. The night I decided to get serious about looking online for a job we went to dinner at a chinese restaurant and my fortune said "when one door closes, another will open" Sure enough I was working within 2 weeks at a job with double the salary of Gannett and excellent benefits.

    I'm not saying that everyone will be as fortunate or blessed, but just take some time to chill and find yourself again. I understand what all of you are going through with the waiting and anxiety. My prayers are with all of you tomorrow.

    Even though ink runs through our veins as newspaper folks, just remember that YOU are the one who makes the paper eb and flow. YOU are the one with the skill set and YOU will rise above this and come out a better person on the other end.

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  24. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:12 AM

    Latest news about Reno: The RGJ is cutting 61 positions total, which is about 15% of the work force. The newsroom is losing 18, including four cut in Carson City bureau today. The remaining cuts in Reno tomorrow.

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  25. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:22 AM

    Three photographers? Goodness, I already thought our photo department in Phoenix was understaffed. Better arm everyone with a point and shoot. There's no one to shoot anything anymore.

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  26. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:23 AM

    How many photographers were there in Phoenix before the cuts? 20 ?

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  27. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:23 AM

    12/2/08 8:32 PM, I believe two of the Plainfield papers were combined under the ownership of Frank Gannett to form the Courier News. He actually liked Plainfield very much and made committments of cash and talent from other papers in the chain to invest in the paper's future. He saw two buildings built in the city for the Courier News. While he believed in Plainfield as a city and was perhaps one of her biggest fans in his adoration, he envisioned the longterm future of the Courier News to be the dominant daily across the middle part of the state. (He also did not like a man called Scudder and a man called Borg [whom he wanted to buy the Bergen Record from.]) The Courier News moved out of Plainfield after he died and that vision was blurred.

    Perhaps you are alluding to the combination of the papers in central New Jersey post-Frank Gannett.

    For decades there have been discussions about combining the papers (prior to Gannett buying the Home News Tribune.) The individual papers' markets are interconnected with one another.

    Gannett was planning to buy the News Tribune in 1984, but the deal fell through. Another company came up with a better deal-- the Bergen Record Corp.

    The Home News was put up for sale in 1992 and while Gannett was a suitor, it did not offer the price the owners had wanted. So, the Home News went to the Asbury Park Press.

    After 10 years of monetary losses, and gains in editorial content and legitimate circulation, the Bergen Record Corp. sold the News Tribune to the Press, where it was immediately combined with the Home News. (That combo may have been a mistake, since circulation tanked three years later.)

    There was a time where the deal with Gannett, to buy the News Tribune in 1994, was so close that contingency plans were made. (Who stays, who goes, etc. from both papers.)

    Each of the times that the three papers were put up for sale or involved in merger talks, there was a downward turn in the economy. So it makes logical sense to do whatever is necessary to survive. What isn't mentioned here is the local papers aren't allowed to keep a reserve for "tough times", which had been the case under family ownership of the Home News and the News Tribune. Every cent of revenue that isn't spent goes out of state -- diverted from the local economy.

    The comments made here about the Courier News being the annointed paper are very true. When the Home News Tribune came under Gannett ownership, we were looked upon by the Courier News people as dirty little stepchildren. Perhaps it was the years of competition in several of our border towns. There was a deep reticence on the part of Courier News people to work with us on anything. Even now, the attitude of CN people when they come into East Brunswick is appalling.

    I am quite sure Chuck Paolino appreciates the comments about his departure from the company. I know he has heard of this blog. And, everyone is "spot on" when they say he has the institutional knowledge. But it's more than just that. Chuck's mind is like a steel trap, and razor-sharp, too. He's also very good with people and an excellent coach.

    The same cannot be said for his presumed successor.

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  28. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:24 AM

    @ 12:00 AM

    Bad mouthing employees was SOP in Camden. At least the waddling gypsy got what was coming.

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  29. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:25 AM

    The Alexandria Town Talk is laying off 14. Six will be lost in the newsroom.
    So far, that only leaves four reporters to cover roughly four parishes.

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  30. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:29 AM

    I don't believe AZ had quite that many photogs. Perhaps 16, plus editors. Anybody in AZ???

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  31. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:29 AM

    Corporate was looking to cut payroll, but yet at our site in Fort Collins, we cut a receptionist, a part-time janitor, a classified rep, an AS400 administrator and a copy editor.

    Way to cut payroll, guys. Why not go for some of the fat cats who pull down a huge salary for very little work. Sounds like a desperate attempt for Gannett to look like they are trying to stop the bleeding, but in reality they did nothing.

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  32. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:32 AM

    12:23 am

    And if the newsroom staff weren't bad enough the arrogance of the CN managers on the other side of the room is enough to choke whats left of us!

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  33. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:32 AM

    i can't sleep.
    this sucks.
    best of luck to all in az including me.

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  34. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:33 AM

    @ 12:23 AM

    The C-N was based in Bridgewater, last I heard. I also heard that it had about four reporters prior to this latest round of layoffs.

    I covered Hunterdon County for the Express-Times in Easton, Pa. during the early 2000s and was underwhelmed by the competition. They had some very good reporters, but they kept them in the home office. And when they did send them out to cover things like the Freeholders meetings, they wouldn't print anything.

    The last real effort I saw the C-N make was for the Jayson Williams trial, and that was because the judge changed venue to Somerville and put the story in the paper's backyard.

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  35. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:37 AM

    Someone earlier said Phoenix was done. Not true. Many departments (including mine) have yet to be notified. They are holding true to the Dec 3 date.

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  36. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:39 AM

    Just curious: Who would take a pay cut, in order to save jobs, and keep the company afloat? My wife, who works for another media company, took a 3% paycut, along with everybody else, and folks kept their jobs. I'd do it.

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  37. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:44 AM

    12:33 am, the Courier News is moving some of its remaining people to Somerville before Jan. 1. It is being referred to as a "bureau." The rest go to East Brunswick.

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  38. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:47 AM

    @12:33

    CN beat the crap out of ET in Hunterdon by offering heavily discounted advertising and subscriptions, along with bulk deliveries of papers "paid for" by corporations and businesses, so they didn't need to print everything. If you lived in Clinton or Raritan Twp and got a free CN subscription every day, are you going to buy ET?? ET is now outta Hunterdon, where its main reason of being there in the first place was to keep CN out of Warren County.

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  39. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:48 AM

    7 or 8 photogs at AZRep. That's BEFORE the cuts.

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  40. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:50 AM

    @12:12 a.m. re: Reno

    Are you sure about those figures? Jesus tap-dancing Christ. I don't think we have 14 more newsroom bodies to give on top of those lost today. So, it takes a reduction of 15% of our workforce to cut 10% of payroll? BL had indicated roughly 40 bodies would go, so more than 60 is a bit of a change of plans, to say the least.

    On a side note, Reno has the dubious distinction of having laid off a father and son both in the span of less than a year. The son is clearly a decent young reporter. Seems we could have found him a home somewhere else in the organization.

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  41. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:54 AM

    7, 8 photographers in AZ???!!!!!! Holy Jesus, Mary and Joseph. GL Indy folks!

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  42. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:57 AM

    Is it true that The Arizona Republic was notifying people via phone & email this evening??

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  43. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:58 AM

    12:23
    It was The Courier-News until it was decided to drop the hyphen and sponsor the Somerset Patriots baseball team.
    The longer name didn't fit above their scoreboard.
    Seriously.

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  44. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:59 AM

    Any clarification on AZ Republic layoffs would be great. Thx everyone.

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  45. Anonymous12/03/2008 12:59 AM

    I second the earlier idea to (just for tomorrow) open several real time comment sections divided by geographic region.

    Nothing crazy, maybe just NE, SE, West Coast, Midwest or the like. I think it would encourage more continuity in threads and could get really interesting.

    Wednesday is going to be insane, Jim. Insane.

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  46. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:01 AM

    What are the initials of the newsroom staff from Brevard that were laid off?

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  47. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:02 AM

    So how many staff photographers did the 'Zona Republic have before the layoffs/buyouts? How many were cut Tuesday? Good lord...

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  48. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:03 AM

    @ 12:33

    When I started at the E-T, we had a Warren and a Hunterdon edition. We had a Flemington bureau, for what it was worth. It was a place in the back of a building with a 1940s battleship gray desk, a telephone and a spare jack for your laptop. I was only there once before they bailed.

    While the C-N might have had a larger circulation in Hunterdon, it was never the dominant paper there. Older folks in Flemington looked to Easton as their big city, strange as it seems. Even today, if you look at obits for people in the Flemington area, if they were born in a hospital, chances are it was Easton Hospital. That was where the department stores were until the 1960s. The railroads used to run special trains on Fridays and Saturdays from Flemington to Easton. The AP stories for the Bruno Hauptmann trial (baby Lindbergh kidnapping) were filed through Easton. When Easton stopped delivering to Flemington zip codes, I had to go to the publisher to get a briefing on why because I got complaints from everyone I talked to on my beat.

    The C-N might have had better numbers in Flemington, but it was never really the Hunterdon County newspaper.

    That honor goes to the weekly Democrat, which is owned by Newhouse now, much to the locals' disgust.

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  49. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:08 AM

    I second the earlier idea to (just for tomorrow) open several real time comment sections divided by geographic region.

    Nothing crazy, maybe just NE, SE, West Coast, Midwest or the like. I think it would encourage more continuity in threads and could get really interesting.

    Wednesday is going to be insane, Jim. Insane.


    Thank you for your support of that idea - it is very Gannett-like, don't you think? If Jim wants to go really crazy, he could include some type of mouse-over map where readers could see comments about their particular state..

    How about it Jim? I know it'd be a bit of work for one person but all of us have to do more with less these days, right ?

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  50. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:14 AM

    I also heard the number 61 in Reno today. How much more can we take?

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  51. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:20 AM

    1:08 OK, OK, touche'. My bad for trying to make navigation easier. It's frowned upon in our world, I know. Just look at GO4.

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  52. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:21 AM

    This from Randy Lovely, the executive editor of The Republic at 9:00 p.m. Arizona time:

    Tonight, we finished the difficult task of contacting the newsroom employees affected by the layoffs.

    The process has been completed and everyone has been informed.

    Tomorrow morning, each department will meet so that we can share specific details about the layoffs and the resulting impact in each area of the newsroom.

    If you are not in the office for these meetings, don't worry. We will have a full staff meeting at 5 p.m. tomorrow so that I can walk everyone through all of the details and talk about next steps.

    I know this has been a difficult process, and tomorrow will be an emotional day. I thank you all of your patience as we work to wrap this up and begin to move forward.

    Randy and Nicole

    So Arizona is done

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  53. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:24 AM

    thats just newsroom though what about artist on 2nd floor... don't think az is done.

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  54. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:25 AM

    Just got home from the D&C in Rochester. We said goodbye to three great people in the newsroo... Information Center. Involuntary layoffs tomorrow.

    Go to sleep everyone, or at least try. It's going to be a long day.

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  55. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:28 AM

    Morale at Pensacola News Journal is in the toilet. The managers wear blinders all day, and the place is bordeline dysfunctional.

    They fire reporters, while retaining editors. Too many chiefs trying to stir the pot, not enough hands to carry out the unrealistic demands.

    The environment stinks. People are terrified of losing their jobs, and who can blame them. Others can't wait to get out of there, hoping they will be laid off, instead of getting fired.

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  56. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:29 AM

    "...as we work to wrap this up and begin to move forward."


    Really? "Wrap this up?" Come on, people. Time's a wastin'. Tick tock. Get a move on.

    You know, I anguish over every word in even the simplest of emails, so I find it hard to believe this editor didn't think, in reviewing this difficult message, that the phrase "wrap this up" wouldn't seem a little callous.

    I dunno. Just seems odd.

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  57. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:32 AM

    What if you work for azrepublic, in the newsroom, and didn't get that e-mail. Did that e-mail go out to everyone on staff? I'm confused.

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  58. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:32 AM

    Andrew/Westchester:
    Sorry we didn't get a chance to say goodbye. You were a pleasure to work with and I'm sure you are moving on to much bigger and better things. Best of luck! - a friend from the night desk

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  59. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:34 AM

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  60. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:40 AM

    For those bashing CN'ers for supposedly treating HNT'ers badly when they arrived in East Brunswick: Perhaps they treat you that way because of your refusal to work with them in the past on a daily basis.

    In my personal experience, HNT'ers were awful to deal with when it came to story- and photo-sharing. It would be silly to imagine it was isolated.

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  61. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:42 AM

    Next up: Indianapolis.

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  62. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:46 AM

    @12:39: Just curious: Who would take a pay cut, in order to save jobs, and keep the company afloat? My wife, who works for another media company, took a 3% paycut, along with everybody else, and folks kept their jobs. I'd do it.

    Well, you'd have to take a 10 percent pay cut for GCI to meet its payroll goal. That would really suck.

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  63. Anonymous12/03/2008 1:54 AM

    Sheesh, I can't believe Indy waited until Wednesday. Be strong.

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  64. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:11 AM

    Haven't heard of anyone getting cut in Tucson, but we all know it's coming. Probably gonna be a bad Wednesday at TNI.

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  65. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:13 AM

    Corporate media is no different than other fat cats like the big 3 automakers or the AIGs and Citibanks of this world. They all ride their high-powered jets, while sticking it to us little people.

    Oh, and don't you love how they're quick to cut us back, but take these silly little retreats out of town to conduct meaningless meetings, about projects that usually end up in what I like to call the 5-point plan grave yard.

    Despite its own flaws, media will quickly write and broadcast the shortcomings of the other industries. Who writes about them, and their jets, free gas up for their cars, free car washes and all?

    Today, many of you will join me on the unemployment lines. I got the boot on Tuesday. Keep your chin up, and don't forget to take your rolodex with you. You may need to hook up with some of your old contacts, if for nothing else, but to let them know you are no longer at the paper or station.


    Good luck, folks!! Start working on a plan. Me, I have big dreams. I plan on writing a book about my old paper, even if I have to self-publish.

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  66. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:25 AM

    We don't get out layoffs till next wed. How are the Production folks faring over Gannettland?

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  67. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:29 AM

    The Journal News (Westchester, Putnam, Rockland counties, NY):
    - Copy desk chief
    - Rockland metro editor (leaving one Rockland editor)
    - Last Rockland business writer
    - One sports columnist
    - Three sports writers
    - Sole Broadway theater critic
    - Three magazine writers
    - One magazine copy editor
    - One photographer
    - Four IT people.
    - C.D. who used to work for the Newscenter
    - Three buyouts
    - Four vacant slots
    - 18 still unaccounted for
    - You are next

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  68. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:32 AM

    ad production was completely destroyed at APP

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  69. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:41 AM

    A.V./Rockland: You are already missed. Can't wait until the next time the blogs go down and they don't have you to call.

    GANNETT WESTCHESTER THREW AWAY A TALENTED AND HARD-WORKING EDITOR FOR ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD REASON, YET THE LOAFERS REMAIN.

    Great job HF, CR and BF. What is it you three do again?

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  70. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:44 AM

    140 HNT staff are very difficult to deal with. They are rude and uncooperative. Most of all, they are also a lazy bunch who are out to protect their turf. At CN we've never had a problem or a snide remark from people at Morristown, Cherry Hill, Neptune and Westchester NY. Really HNT, why are you all a bunch of lazy sourfaced schoolgirls??? We even hear how lazy you people are from the mothership Neptune. (I would love to have a job where I could get away with two bylined stories a week and a couple of rewritten press releases just like the many who play in the HNT newsroom.)

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  71. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:46 AM

    The CN (C-N, whatever) could never decide what it wanted to do in Hunterdon. Other than sell ads, of course. Staffing at the bureau in Flemington ebbed and flowed, it never seemed like there was a serious commitment to the region.

    Things just got worse when Doofus and Dingbat ran the paper. Dingbat had his own ideas about what readers wanted (Education? Nobody cares about that. Transportation? Only if you mean driving a car. And let's create this new reporting category called "How we live." What's it mean? I don't know, we'll figure that out.) Besides, he was too busy having affairs with photographers and production people and ad reps to worry about mundane things like, oh, I don't know, news.

    Doofus thought he was the editor and publisher, and tried to kill the paper the way he did in the early 80's, when he really was the editor. If he ever gets canned (which of course will never happen because incompetents like Doofus and Dingbat always manage to survive at Gannett) he could always make a living doing his Abe Lincoln impersonation.

    And whoever said they dropped the hyphen out of Courier-News because of the scoreboard thing is correct. The publisher at the time (not Doofus) felt the name was to small for the top of the scoreboard, so he dropped the hyphen so they could print it with a larger typeface.

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  72. Anonymous12/03/2008 2:49 AM

    In Trenton, all four reporters in the GNJ bureau were fired. All that's left is the bureau chief and the news editor.

    Are you kidding me? One reporter covering the state legislature?

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  73. Anonymous12/03/2008 3:05 AM

    It was a blood bath in Cherry Hill. Every time you turned around another person you knew was cleaning out their desks. The newsroom was cemetery-quiet Tuesday. Many people who made the Courier-Post what is used to be were shown the door. There seemed to be no pattern to the axings.

    Graphic artist Lori Gallo had 14 people walk out with her. She was the paper's only graphic artist. But she did whatever you asked. Not good enough, apparently.

    In sports, the carnage was stunning. Copy editor Jeff Wolfe gone after some 14 years. Phillies reporter Mike Radano gone. Eagles reporter Sean McCann gone. And to top it off, columnist Kevin Roberts gone.

    How the hell any paper can lay off a talented wordsmith such as Roberts is beyond comprehension. At a time when papers need more commentary, the C-P now has none. What an organization. They gave him his walking papers and his gift card for being Employee of the Month at the same time. Freakin' classy.

    The devastation in Cherry Hill knocks the Courier-Post down to county paper at best. It will never recover from this. And what's worse is that the people running it don't care. The publisher was nowhere to be seen, leaving the EE to notify everyone go face-to-face. The ME was the first to go. Yet the assclowns who are news editor and sports editor remain.

    And what's worse is that all the sports editor cared about was that he was being ripped on some blog as having something to do with those who got canned. He climbs to the top of the classless ladder. It will be a position he occupies in perpetuity.

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