Saturday, March 07, 2009
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Jim says: "Proceed with caution; this is a free-for-all comment zone. I try to correct or clarify incorrect information. But I can't catch everything. Please keep your posts focused on Gannett and media-related subjects. Note that I occasionally review comments in advance, to reject inappropriate ones. And I ignore hostile posters, and recommend you do, too."
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This is the first week of Jersey Confidential, so that means the first weekend, too. I don't know whether you guys need a Confidential string over the weekend, so I figured this is the best way to find out.
ReplyDeleteTGIF & the Weekend in Jersey. What a week... hopefully (for financial reasons) may there be many more. I really need to keep my job and so do my co-workers. We shall see... Keeping my fingers crossed that any announcement supposedly on 3-18 is not real bad (like layoffs). Hopefully no layoffs, but I won't be there anyway; I have a day off. So I guess I will have to depend on this site for info, because my co-workers hate to tell me bad stuff! :) They know I will get upset, hell they sent my a email last October when the last layoffs were announced because I was not in that day! Whatever, it is what it is. Try to have a good weekend in Jersey and try to forget who you work for; for at least 48 hours! :)
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ReplyDeleteTo 8:25 I will not go into to much detail,because I think Jim is right,and I don't want to make him do any more work then he has to.
All I can say is Thank you.
I believe that I was always a good employee,not tacking sick time,I've given back vacation days,and always did the best that I could. I can hole heartedly say,that since I worked for the APP,I have bin blackmailed.Yes blackmailed,by my old boss Rick H.does anyone remember when he was fired,they wont tell you that they made me do an 8 month investigation into what was going on in the Print Shop.They made me do almost all of the investigation,bet no one knew that!look it up.They taught me how to find things reel good.They said that I gave them good enough proof,that they could go into the prosecuting attorney of Monmouth County,and drop the case on his desk(yes it was that big)!I had done my job well they said,but it took them over a year to say thank you.Fact was they were embarrassed to admit that this long haired guy found out something that was going on right under there noses.They know that what I say is true,and I got the written proof.So I did this for them,but when they did something to myself and my coworkers.Well don't you think that by this time I would know how to keep notes,get tangible evidence (pics)and get as much info as I could THIS IS MY BODY AND I CONSIDER WHAT THEY DID TO BE AN ASALT ON BOTH ME AND MY COWORKERS.They know that I'm right and I know that I'm right.But they are bigger then me,and can threaten those that know I'm right.And I wish that there was someone that could help all of us.
3/06/2009 9:05 PM
Jim I hope maybe you can tell me,who does investigating reporting about Gannett? Does anyone that reads this blog?is there anyone? I tried to get something done for myself and my co workers,through the Gannett HOT LINE,but to no avail.So now what?Can you tell me were to go,or who to talk too?Don'T know if you get involved?
ReplyDeleteTo yesterday's post about the police being posted after my firing. I think it was totally done to discredit me. Plus the fact that Skippy is a total coward.
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ReplyDeleteGentlemen/ladies: I just removed a series of comments that were too personal in nature. This is a forum for Jersey news -- but not for settling personal feuds. We're not interested in that. Please take it off line. Thanks!
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ReplyDelete11:13, you and EG have something in common. HR hired off-duty cops, armed and in uniform, to guard entry to the building right after both of you were dismissed.
I've always found it curious that both of you have replied to me -- convincingly -- that you never made any kind of threat to anyone.
So, I find it curious that the company had such an apparent overreaction. It seems too costly and too well conspired among top management to be for no reason, yet, let's face it, if I told my boss someone threatened my life, would the company bring in armed police to guard the building for a couple of weeks? ROTFLMFAO
And then someone unknown came in a back door and caused the whole building to be evacuated for an hour while the bomb squad nosed around the building, to no avail.
I can't help but wonder if this was in anticipation of lawsuits from you two, to lead other workers to believe your issues are baseless, you're off balance and to intimidate workers from talking back to management in any way.
I know it seems like I might be overanalyzing, but I just can't picture a scenario that would make those two episodes of armed, uniformed police protection pass the smell test.
Unless management reveals facts to the contrary, I have to believe both of you have valid issues and were treated unfairly. And the police protection may constitute defamation. Ahem.
3/06/2009 8:25 PM
I think people need to see this!
ReplyDeleteJIM I am trying to understand this,the other day you laid the rules down,and I am trying to stay within your boundaries,what do you mean by this now? was it the how much thing?
ReplyDeleteGannett has maybe hinted that two people might have bin so out of line that they felt that some of the top Big Wigs might maybe be in danger.If that isn't personal I don't know what is.
ReplyDeleteWere do you go who can you tell,does anybody really care anymore
ReplyDeleteDarn I missed the personal feud stuff. Hope they were using their name:)
ReplyDeleteI confess Chris,it was me EG.I said something about someone having to sell their house S.H.,becase they might have bin threatened by either one of two people that got fired.That's all.
ReplyDeleteHey EG. I heard that Skippy had to sell his house because he was threatened. I found that really hard to believe. You would think if that was true before you sold your over 600,000 home you might do something silly like call the police or a restraining order? Might be just me but before I moved from my well under 600,000 home and uprooted my family I would explore some legal action.
ReplyDeleteHas the former Courier News building been sold yet? Daily Record will be the next to relocate its employees into leased space, by summer '09.
ReplyDeleteE.G. How much you looking for $$$$$
ReplyDeleteE.G.. With all these accusations your making it is sounding like you were never in the wrong on any account. That the APP/Gannett never followed any rules and basically did what they wanted,no matter the harm or how illegal.
ReplyDeleteDid you ever give them the chance to try and work things out,clear up any mess,make things right? Gave them a little time?
Or did you just go after them because you are looking to gain something out of it?
Is the Print shop still there?
And if so what about the people left? Are they dieing to?
to E.G. this is not your personal vedetta forum. I know yoy, and know before your "Clobber" issue, you were trying to go on disablility for your back. I have sat silentlywhile you blame everything wrong in your life-lost my guitar, house, and kids (in the order you wrote them). Put your big boy pants on-take some respondsibility for your own life.
ReplyDeleteAnd a walk out? 8.1% of the US is out of work. I will work until my job is no longer available. While you take a paycheck, work for it.
I have been with Gannett for 29 years and loved most of it. All the personal attacks on people here are pointless. we come on to read about layoffs, pensions and what else is happening in Gannett-and all I see are EG and CE and the police-what 4 years ago!Please.
E.G. If you have Proof/Pic's ?
ReplyDeleteDon't you think they have there own proof/pic's ?
You can try and say there's is all false,But who's to say your's isn't false either?
To:8:06 This is Why,If you are going to say something you have to get it right.I Refer to your comment about the order of the things I lost.Please look at yesterdays blog,and tell the order again,only this time get it right,(My kids and health come first).This is why it is so good to have things in writing,you can always go back and LOOK AGAIN !
ReplyDeleteRemember the 90's movie "Bob Roberts"? It had a song with the line "Now we're marching for self-interest ..." More and more we see the C-N sports section is edited for the self-interest of the sports editor. Today the C-N brushed off 2 big sports stories:
ReplyDeleteChuck Daly, former New Jersey Nets (NBA) coach, diagnosed with pancreatic cancer
Reported in the Detroit Free Press, not picked up by the C-N.
NCAA hits Florida State with major sanctions: 4 years probation, all victories from '07 vacated
Reported in Tallahassee, given 6 lines agate in the C-N.
These 2 stories broke during the day on Friday so there's no excuse for the C-N to not have them.
And as to the proof and pics,the pics are from them, they took them,and someone gave them to me anonymously ,and I took my own,they show the same thing.And if you were to look I always include my coworkers,They might not realize what it did to them either
ReplyDeleteDid you say work for your paycheck,or hurt for your paycheck?
ReplyDeleteeg-take a look back at your original postings from days ago-the one where everyone was on your case about your spelling. it is what you wrote.
ReplyDeletebut please, please, get over yourself. get a lawyer and file a suit if there is any reality to your story-and if there is-I hope you get compensated. but the point is this forum is not the EG show. shut the f**k up about this. I notice you didn't respond to my comment that you were already trying to get out for back injuries, and you told people at work you had cancer and were seeing specialists in Philly. You had more illnesses than anyone I knew before the fumes-am I correct?
8;04 Well ya, Gave them every chance to make it right, but all they did was cover it up!This is not a funny matter!The APP nurse saw that I had a bloody scabbed perforation in my septum and the workers comp Dr saw NOTHING,!! after getting a call from M.L.head of HR well what would you call that!And OH YA I got sooo much out of this.Read all the posts that I have made,they are more a warning to be careful!
ReplyDelete9:26 Still have all thoes things!
ReplyDeleteSo I will go away,YOU ARE RIGHT,THIS IS NOT THE ERNIE SHOW.I am sorry if I make it sound that way,maybe I do allot of venting. So when Gannett does something to you, that effects your life everyday,I guess I can read it wear?
ReplyDelete9:26 Cancer,lymph nodes and perforated septum came after I found out about the sulfuric acid.Not going to bother you guys anymore GOOD LUCK to you and your fellow workers,be safe its important.
ReplyDeleteSlight correction: The C-N did report on Chuck Daly having cancer ... only in agate and with no reference to the New Jersey Nets.
ReplyDeleteStill, that's not an excuse for not localizing your sports section.
Today's Courier News column on Page 3 presents two controversial issues-- prayer at public school activities and standing for the national anthem. Both issues could be argued convincingly.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that this column is written by an associate editor who has reverted to his signature uses of expressions like "boo-frickin-hoo" and "The@#$%&* with you." Even here in NJ, cannot we not expect an editor to write with some measure of class?
I am mortified that this is tolerated, even here in New Jersey!
Only the land upon which the Courier-News building sits is of value. Best to tear the eyesore down.
ReplyDeleteBut I do wish the new owners would leave the little guard shack for historical reasons of honoring the pressmen who went on strike back in the '70s.
I still have the bumper sticker: Boycott the Scab Printed Courier-News. I got it when I worked as an intern. HA!
The inside word is that the Asbury Park Press has lost 12,000 circulation since January. Down from 137,000 to 125,000
ReplyDeleteNow, what happened here? Did 12,000 subscribers suddenly discover the Internet in January? Did they all get laid off and cancel their subscriptions?
Or, did they notice the shrinking news pages, the lack of coverage, the reduction in graphics, and did they finally get fed up with poor writing and poor circulation service? Funny how this coincides with the all the cuts late last year.
Mr. Dubow, don't listen to us. Listen to your customers. Why are you walking away from a legitimate business? Is your Internet strategy going to replace that income anytime soon? Can you see that the cut-cut-cut strategy isn't working? It's a competitive world now. Gannett no longer holds media monopolies, and stock holders stopped caring about your cost management and dividends two years ago.
What's the plan? Would quality content figure in any of that? I'm a loyal employee, but clearly at this rate of loss, I won't be an employee much longer. Because there won't be a business to employee me.
The APP has 8 vice presidents. Isn't that a little excessive?
ReplyDeleteCould also have something to do with the APP going from 50¢ to 75¢.
ReplyDelete12:07 am: Go to the "prosecuting attorney of Monmouth County" if you have all this proof. Please. Go to the Neptune health department. Go to the friggin state health department. Go tell John Bennett, he hates the APP. Do something. Just please stop whining here.
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ReplyDeleteChucky: The CN is a LOCAL paper. LOCAL means the central New Jersey area. National stuff should be relegated to deep inside the section, if it gets in at all. People who read the CN don't read it to find out what's happening to a college sports team in another part of the country.
ReplyDelete1:36 Goodnight Bob
ReplyDelete1:40 WOW
ReplyDelete1:31 Sure, the price increase didn't help, but let's look deeper. Nine percent of the Press customers took a hike immediately after all the changes. They said, "This paper isn't worth the extra money." Does Progresso Soups lose 9 percent of their customers after a price increase? Or, do people keep shopping and say, "Oh well, grocery prices are going up." I suggest it's the latter. Why? Because Progresso didn't shrink the cans and water down the soup, that's why.
ReplyDeleteDid the Press pull in perhaps as much as $25,000 a day extra because of the price increases? Sure. How is advertising faring in face of the circ drop-off? Is the Press getting those customers back? No. They're frustrated longtime subscribers who couldn't stand waiting on the phone to talk to someone in Kentucky to find out that their missing paper wouldn't be delivered, and they realized that even if they had gotten the paper, there wasn't as much news as there used to be.
Short-term thinking, long term disaster. Mr. Dubow, do you think there's a reason the stock is at $2 a share?
Mr. Dubow, don't listen to the cry-baby journos. What do they know anyway? Not an MBA in the bunch. Listen to your customers. Listen to your stockholders. What's the plan? Where is the plan?
When the value of the grocery coupons I clip in the Sunday paper exceeds the cost of the paper, I also will drop it. The coupons and color comics make it worthwhile.
ReplyDelete"NEW JERSEY PAPERS ROCK"
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3/07/2009 8:23 PM
Yeah... they will rock and roll right out of sight! ;)
Maybe they will, maybe they won't, maybe just a few. Hold on... it's going to be a bumpy ride!
As we get deeper into March and nearer to the potential of more reductions because of horrible ad sales and declining circulation, I just hope that someone in one of the empty suits at Gannett wakes up and gets rid of all the useless management who cost the big bucks and do nothing out there at the community papers. These people deserve to be on the unemployment line far more than the hard working, lower paid folks who've been screwed over and harrassed by these morons for so long. Look at the advertising departments in most of the papers in our region: overpaid ass-kissing jerks who are not needed (then or) now, and, the huge number of overhead buttheads who've been kept on the payroll. Many hundreds of thousands of dollars can be saved by doing something in these areas of the business.
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ReplyDeleteFor those of you who don't know EG, I want to tell you that he was an excellent employee, hard-working, reliable, and willing to do anything it took to help out a co-worker. I am sorry this has happened to him. I would happily give him a refernce for any job he applies for.
3/07/2009 10:44 AM
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ReplyDeleteHe is so full of shit just like the drains
ReplyDeleteAnon@144PM: The C-N is in Rutgers' back yard and Rutgers has a big-time sports program, thus the FSU sanctions are relevant.
ReplyDeleteIf local news is so important, why did the C-N suppress the story about Rutgers losing nearly $200,000 on its bowl game?
Anonymous said...
ReplyDeleteOnly the land upon which the Courier-News building sits is of value. Best to tear the eyesore down.
But I do wish the new owners would leave the little guard shack for historical reasons of honoring the pressmen who went on strike back in the '70s.
I still have the bumper sticker: Boycott the Scab Printed Courier-News. I got it when I worked as an intern. HA!
3/07/2009 12:03 PM
Hello!!! The guard shack was torn down after the strike was over.