tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post8492447838010861209..comments2023-11-05T06:26:51.316-05:00Comments on Gannett Blog: Reader: Why pay for AP, if it's just buried inside?Jim Hopkinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-35892762364713752902008-10-19T00:39:00.000-04:002008-10-19T00:39:00.000-04:00Anyone who thinks any AP savings will be used to "...Anyone who thinks any AP savings will be used to "beef up" coverage is absolutely delusional. That money will go straight to profit margin.<BR/><BR/>Also, today's young journalists need desperately to be told how terrible they are. You're doing them a favor by doing so.<BR/><BR/>Save a life -- bash a young journalist.rknilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03424954461023330846noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-43824811745150361142008-10-17T20:21:00.000-04:002008-10-17T20:21:00.000-04:00Anonymous at 3:29 PM wrote, "But youngsters just 2...Anonymous at 3:29 PM wrote, "<I>But youngsters just 2-3 years out of J-school were (and are) much less expensive.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Anonymous at 4:16 PM responded, "<I>Hiring J-School kids at metros (and ignoring more qualified staffers at smaller papers has been the doom of many a metro. Mostly because this "kid wonders" have serious bad attitudes in the newsroom.</I>"<BR/><BR/> The number of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-44479544702584638992008-10-17T16:55:00.000-04:002008-10-17T16:55:00.000-04:00Anon @ 6:02 a.m.: You guys even DO color page proo...Anon @ 6:02 a.m.: You guys even DO color page proofs? Wow, that's luxury. B&W strictly at this 100-thou-plus paper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-33027542774478120592008-10-17T16:16:00.000-04:002008-10-17T16:16:00.000-04:00Of course it is pathetic... but where have you bee...Of course it is pathetic... but where have you been? This has been a trend for the last decade, at least. Now we reap what we has sowed! Ha! Hiring J-School kids at metros (and ignoring more qualified staffers at smaller papers has been the doom of many a metro. Mostly because this "kid wonders" have serious bad attitudes in the newsroom. They know it all. And Joe, obits have been paid for years,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-10903267721072598642008-10-17T15:29:00.000-04:002008-10-17T15:29:00.000-04:00Re: Anonymous 11:20 a.m.:The day my former paper s...Re: Anonymous 11:20 a.m.:<BR/><BR/>The day my former paper started soliciting reader e-mails to help with upcoming features was the day I knew we'd finally jumped the shark.<BR/><BR/>One of the advantages of having what at the time was a 175-person newsroom was that staffing at that level was a guarantee that you'd have men and women working their beats 40 hours a week so that they would know Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-25980908004395608702008-10-17T11:20:00.000-04:002008-10-17T11:20:00.000-04:00Forget AP, in Westchester they miss local breaking...Forget AP, in Westchester they miss local breaking news stories and ask the public by posting on their website "IF YOU WERE AT THE AMUSEMENT PARK WHEN THE RIDE FAILED, WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU" Sounds like a lame attempt of journalism after missing a big story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-59392973384351724322008-10-17T11:19:00.000-04:002008-10-17T11:19:00.000-04:00I am so old I can remember the old saw about the t...I am so old I can remember the old saw about the three times you should get your name in the paper for free: when you're born, when you're married and when you die. Obits themselves were gratis as well. Nowadays, one of the most disgusting <BR/>"revenue enhancers" out there is a usurious charge for obits in the first place. The point above about charging double to insert a flag logo for a Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10303849908341560016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-62106361965480773442008-10-17T11:10:00.000-04:002008-10-17T11:10:00.000-04:005:18 AM wrote: "At our paper, we went to using a p...5:18 AM wrote: "At our paper, we went to using a pre-made nation page sent by GNS every day. It is available for everyone to use."<BR/><BR/>Here's a good question: A lot of stuff on the GNS nation/world page is AP copy. Would papers be able to run it if they're not subscribed to AP? <BR/><BR/>My guess would be no.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-1561839492821290672008-10-17T10:35:00.000-04:002008-10-17T10:35:00.000-04:00You know what, I'm gonna go against the grain here...You know what, I'm gonna go against the grain here: I think papers should do more with both AP and Bloomberg. Not too long ago I had to handle a lot of wire copy, and you know what? Both wire services put out a ton of great stuff every day that papers either don't use, or they chop it into small, useless little micro-stories just to fill space. Or, even worse, they get a reporter to "localize" Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-37740159367553037282008-10-17T09:40:00.000-04:002008-10-17T09:40:00.000-04:00If we took all the money we spend on AP ...1. Divv...If we took all the money we spend on AP ...<BR/>1. Divvy some for international news services.<BR/>2. Invest in domestic regional coverage of our own (west coast could be an issue).<BR/>3. Organize and beef up domestic photo coverage in a regional approach (with video).<BR/>4. Consider ESPN partnerships or Sports Network for sports coverage gaps.<BR/>5. Have a budget for purchases of individual Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-40564643618663454612008-10-17T07:32:00.000-04:002008-10-17T07:32:00.000-04:00Good point, Jim. Some of our readers are complaini...Good point, Jim. Some of our readers are complaining that we've got TOO MUCH local news in the paper now. They want to know where all of the national/international news - and the stocks page (yep, that too) - has gone.<BR/><BR/>So much for local, local, local.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-3986731230938415292008-10-17T06:02:00.000-04:002008-10-17T06:02:00.000-04:00I love the Nation page. Fonts don't match anything...I love the Nation page. Fonts don't match anything else in the paper, stuff I read hours or days before elsewhere. It's like an instant "Remember When...?" feature.<BR/><BR/>We use the same weather map all week long, we just change the temperature every day in every city by 2 degrees up or down, via spreadsheet. No one has caught on yet.<BR/><BR/>Our biggest revenue growth this year has come fromAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-57537755728874095002008-10-17T05:18:00.000-04:002008-10-17T05:18:00.000-04:00"But getting the right kind of copy from the fight..."But getting the right kind of copy from the fight kind of person requires a lot of finesse and a lot of work.)"<BR/><BR/>And if management needs to drop AP to make its number, you think they will care if it's more work why???<BR/><BR/>Sorry, from first-hand knowledge, any "caring" would be hollow. If they have to make a number, they will do what they have to, especially at the smaller and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-51324021119968127942008-10-17T03:21:00.000-04:002008-10-17T03:21:00.000-04:00No wire copy? That's kind of crazy.Anyway, AP is c...No wire copy? That's kind of crazy.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, AP is changing how it structures content delivery and pricing scales. Does that change the game at all, or is it still "too expensive" for some papers vs. what it really uses?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-34255811329966302442008-10-17T02:31:00.000-04:002008-10-17T02:31:00.000-04:00Where would these smaller Gannett papers think the...Where would these smaller Gannett papers think their customers would get national and world news from -- if not from the local paper and its website?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16651269559205765985noreply@blogger.com