tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post7589169105905990720..comments2023-11-05T06:26:51.316-05:00Comments on Gannett Blog: Mail | 'I am a laid-off, loyal . . . ex-Gannetter'Jim Hopkinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-89290042967414223692011-12-18T01:27:01.333-05:002011-12-18T01:27:01.333-05:00Interesting topic, loyalty.
I always felt loyal to...Interesting topic, loyalty.<br />I always felt loyal to my employer when I was working at a community newspaper in the 70s and 80s and felt a lot of loyalty in return. There was even a sense of loyalty coming and going from USA Today when I arrived there in the mid-80s. Then things started to shift and at mid-USAT career one of my bosses said to me in a one-on-one meeting that my feelings for theChris Fruitrichnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-16251751297265998792011-12-16T13:57:13.920-05:002011-12-16T13:57:13.920-05:0011:03 is a corporate writer (I know him personally...11:03 is a corporate writer (I know him personally). Next time someone post's that they have been laid off, remember whomever questions their credibility is probably the person who fired them in the first place. HR and Corporate are all over Jim's blog. Jim keep giving us the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-76884056345309720172011-12-15T18:16:33.845-05:002011-12-15T18:16:33.845-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-67820150993358573812011-12-15T17:02:16.020-05:002011-12-15T17:02:16.020-05:00Absolutely agree with these posts! 2:45 has missed...Absolutely agree with these posts! 2:45 has missed all the points, including that this person doesn't say she started a business at all. But what if she had? Hardly impossible. I've started a couple myself through the years. I agree that journalism prepares you well for many things. 2:45 is either a "plant" or a truly uninspired person. Too bad. But I tend to think it's a &Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-56656734597748676062011-12-15T16:21:40.673-05:002011-12-15T16:21:40.673-05:00Hard to understand the skepticism of people who mo...Hard to understand the skepticism of people who move on from Gannett and land on their feet in better shape. Happened to me, too. Understand that reporters, editors and ad salespeople have highly developed networking and social skills and know a lot of people who can help them in their next careers. Anyone who commanded any respect at all could be a treasured hire. It just comes down to working Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-43225528280041197472011-12-15T15:20:00.116-05:002011-12-15T15:20:00.116-05:0010:33
The nay sayers who are still at Gannett trul...10:33<br />The nay sayers who are still at Gannett truly believe that there cannot possibly be life after Gannett.<br />That must be why they constantly try to reput any postings of success stories.<br />They are so dependent on Gannett being the only possible job opportunity.<br />Those of us with the courage to develope ourselves outside of Gannett is just not imaginable in their mindset .It Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-49441877711300667862011-12-15T14:45:46.093-05:002011-12-15T14:45:46.093-05:0010:33, I also would prefer not to give private det...10:33, I also would prefer not to give private details. But I am not claiming what you and others here do on a fairly frequent basis, always without verification. You expect that we all should simply believe those claims. Not gonna happen. That is the difference here. Snarky comments like Jims at 10:54 will not change this. Pretending you do not understand this point will not change this. Any Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-8684203967017506592011-12-15T10:33:57.300-05:002011-12-15T10:33:57.300-05:00I'm 12:04 and the original poster. I provided ...I'm 12:04 and the original poster. I provided Jim all details of my positions at Gannett as well as before and current. He is aware of who I am and I have communicated with him in the past. <br /><br />He kindly didn't share them since my current employer is a private company and they prefer privacy. I'm sure that's true for many of us leaving Gannett; we've had it with large Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-38923961675902218712011-12-15T07:36:21.780-05:002011-12-15T07:36:21.780-05:00Jim, if you take LinkedIn profiles at face value, ...Jim, if you take LinkedIn profiles at face value, then there's not much more to say.<br /><br />No details provided means no credibility, especially when these are fantastic tales from the start.<br /><br />I know that you and others who haven't worked in a while want to create alternate realities. That's your choice, but when you start trying to pass them off here, prepare to be Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-87039338281267557752011-12-15T06:08:43.298-05:002011-12-15T06:08:43.298-05:00Jim, I'm generally a supporter but quoting fig...Jim, I'm generally a supporter but quoting figures from a story you wrote in February 2003 about entrepreneurs is weak.<br /><br />When those figures are from a study of business failures over four years prior to 2003, the relevance to today is even more distant.<br /><br />You wouldn't (and shouldn't) let anyone in the company get away with using ten-year-old data as justification, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-48440583815117992252011-12-15T00:39:35.735-05:002011-12-15T00:39:35.735-05:008:35--you obviously are a yes man who can't or...8:35--you obviously are a yes man who can't or won't think for himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-76139161009792313672011-12-15T00:22:57.763-05:002011-12-15T00:22:57.763-05:00I've received 12:04's e-mail. She has prov...I've received 12:04's e-mail. She has provided her name and LinkedIn profile, including the name of the previous Gannett site where she was laid off, and the name of her new employer.<br /><br />Now, to be sure, just because this poster is the real deal doesn't mean everyone claiming life after Gannett is good-to-better. Still, I give these post-Gannett posters more credibility than Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-19184292426297560642011-12-15T00:04:15.427-05:002011-12-15T00:04:15.427-05:00Jim at 7:03:
It worked while there were good peopl...Jim at 7:03:<br />It worked while there were good people running things. Things aren't what they used to be, to say the least. I've sent you some details privately, not for publication, but to address some questions.<br /><br />And 11:22:<br />You just keep putting on your resume that you are an agitator. I'll bet the phone is ringing off the hook with job offers. I know what I would Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-15931920041597825812011-12-14T23:36:01.996-05:002011-12-14T23:36:01.996-05:00Re: 11:22
Loyalty is still the number 1 path to s...Re: 11:22<br /><br />Loyalty is still the number 1 path to success in Gannett. Agitators and independent thinkers are feared and shunned by this company. That's one of the problems with Gannett.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-32930123749389816052011-12-14T23:22:51.926-05:002011-12-14T23:22:51.926-05:00"I have in my career worked at several compan..."I have in my career worked at several companies, and loyalty is always the No. 1 path to success. I don't care how talented someone is or how much I need to fill a position, if they don't demonstrate an excellent attitude and strong loyalty, I don't hire them. At any level."<br /><br />Outdated advice. Today, good companies know agitators and independent thinkers spur Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-84568751837299100682011-12-14T23:03:28.546-05:002011-12-14T23:03:28.546-05:00Jim, the bottom line is you allow these bullshit t...Jim, the bottom line is you allow these bullshit tales to continue. Now you are featuring them.<br /><br />Don't try to change the subject to conceal your lack of moderation. <br /><br />Your argument is as sleepy as Rip Van Winkle. It's a recycled ploy that gives people the green light to make up anything. After all, you claim they have to remain anonymous, and they certainly can't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-54855002871905221452011-12-14T22:54:02.655-05:002011-12-14T22:54:02.655-05:008:55 Posters who fear giving too many details here...8:55 Posters who fear giving too many details here are no different than you, who posts anonymously.<br /><br />You ask for something that you aren't willing to offer either.Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-87524951691276605122011-12-14T21:45:23.027-05:002011-12-14T21:45:23.027-05:00Be loyal to a person, not to a company. No company...Be loyal to a person, not to a company. No company is loyal to you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-43019571441695497702011-12-14T20:55:23.417-05:002011-12-14T20:55:23.417-05:00Jim, you give credit to the person for being vague...Jim, you give credit to the person for being vague. If she had bothered to say what she does, it would make more sense.<br /><br />Maybe she doesn't run the company, but she claims to have some role in building an "excellent" team, which implies not only the ability to hire, but also the ability to red-light "non-loyal" hires. (We're left to speculate on this goddess&#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-67905524966914374132011-12-14T20:35:56.007-05:002011-12-14T20:35:56.007-05:007:53 trust me, we didn't appreciate your attit...7:53 trust me, we didn't appreciate your attitude either but we had to put up with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-24702143096860492662011-12-14T20:05:09.721-05:002011-12-14T20:05:09.721-05:00This woman didn't start a company. She writes:...This woman didn't start a company. She writes: "I've joined another company."<br /><br />Also, as to the relative success/failure rate of business start-ups, here's something I <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2003-02-17-starts_x.htm" rel="nofollow">wrote</a> when I covered entrepreneurs for USA Today:<br /><br />New companies don't fail as often — or as Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-2376196984350350412011-12-14T19:53:50.697-05:002011-12-14T19:53:50.697-05:00I'm not Anonymous 5:32, but I had a career in ...I'm not Anonymous 5:32, but I had a career in journalism, left to try another field 20 or so years ago and came back to journalism. One of things I found out is that in the other field I entered, they did not appreciate my skepticism, my cynicism, my "devil's advocate" way of approaching projects which serves me well as a journalist. They wanted yes-men. I wasn't one and I&#Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-11532544896312325022011-12-14T19:45:25.871-05:002011-12-14T19:45:25.871-05:007:12: I agree with you completely about the same g...7:12: I agree with you completely about the same guy who always comes in with the "I have 10 employees, six figures in the bank, and all it took was some hard work" guy. <br /><br />This story seems a little different -- she didn't start her own biz, just found work elsewhere (at the manager level, presumably) and has something original to say about her newspaper experience. <br /><Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-77902366860933216012011-12-14T19:37:19.460-05:002011-12-14T19:37:19.460-05:007:24, I know you won't understand this, but he...7:24, I know you won't understand this, but here goes.<br /><br />The odds of starting a business and having it succeed are not high, even in a strong economy. So most of these stories are likely not to be true.<br /><br />Another problem: Many people here are just not skilled. What are they offering a customer base? That would be easier to answer if anyone provided more than vague stories Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-88433924773800083652011-12-14T19:24:58.620-05:002011-12-14T19:24:58.620-05:00So in other words, pictures or it didn't happe...So in other words, pictures or it didn't happen? Seriously, that's a lame standard of proof.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com