tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post7390395250261751853..comments2023-11-05T06:26:51.316-05:00Comments on Gannett Blog: Mail | Is Gannett selling news coverage with ads?Jim Hopkinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-19875694191919977482012-03-09T12:00:52.054-05:002012-03-09T12:00:52.054-05:00In the business, what do they call the free papers...In the business, what do they call the free papers and how do you differentiate the writing when you discuss it? I always assumed the free papers had biased or compromised articles; basically no credibility. I used to put "newspapers" in the world of journalism. How would you properly refer to the distinction between the two types of writing, if there is any anymore?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-8388172029428512712012-03-09T10:06:34.667-05:002012-03-09T10:06:34.667-05:00All the comments about not being in the real world...All the comments about not being in the real world of business seem almost dogmatic. Basically, we have product that more and more people are not willing to pay for because the quality has declined. Pay walls have not increased circulation; which you would expect if the product was of value to customer. Perhaps we need to accept the reality the product has declined and that is in part causing Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-23765901414245111242012-03-08T16:11:42.806-05:002012-03-08T16:11:42.806-05:002:18, exactly! All one has to do is look -- look! ...2:18, exactly! All one has to do is look -- look! -- at some editions over the years. The difference is not only in black-and-white, but later in color: front page, no ads, hard news.<br /><br />Today I can count on banners, sticky notes, spadeas, and lifestyle features about what to wear in winter.<br /><br />And digital? No difference if one takes into consideration the zero control sites haveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-75491844590668270812012-03-08T14:18:37.974-05:002012-03-08T14:18:37.974-05:00I understand the business pressures. But it seems ...I understand the business pressures. But it seems that the industry is rapidly stripping away all of the "taboos" (front-page ads, advertiser-driven content).<br /><br />Once you've sold-out, your "price" only goes down, not up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-35147183242832409982012-03-08T09:46:27.762-05:002012-03-08T09:46:27.762-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-89081441266247525292012-03-08T09:02:55.773-05:002012-03-08T09:02:55.773-05:00If you think there is a wall around the newsroom, ...If you think there is a wall around the newsroom, consider these examples in New Jersey:<br />-- No editorials allowed supporting a statewide do-not-call list a few years back because it would hurt Gannett's ability to sell papers on the phone.<br />-- Stories on a major car dealership being investigated for fraud were buried because they were a big advertiser.<br />Great work serving your Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-21878335466189370532012-03-07T23:38:44.575-05:002012-03-07T23:38:44.575-05:00Newsroom-wide staff meetings in Cincinnati routine...Newsroom-wide staff meetings in Cincinnati routinely discuss what advertisers want/respond to, especially for online.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-46308967287572198302012-03-07T20:50:42.801-05:002012-03-07T20:50:42.801-05:00Once again the ONLY folks who care are the narrow ...Once again the ONLY folks who care are the narrow focused, never actually had to run a business or meet a payroll, journalism teachers and archaic news room folks. The Titanic is sinking and they are whinning that they are running low on champaign. They don't get it. They don't want to get itAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-40909603351383795642012-03-07T17:46:19.523-05:002012-03-07T17:46:19.523-05:00Myself, I take 5:35's well-stated point. Still...Myself, I take 5:35's well-stated point. Still, advertising should not control content. Yet, it's fairly common. <br /><br />In my day (and back to Day 1 generations before), people read the news which was why advertising hopped on board. It was a great deal for all involved: journalists, advertisers and readers.<br /><br />But some time around the 80's, that long-standing dynamic Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-65897822846475146422012-03-07T17:44:25.821-05:002012-03-07T17:44:25.821-05:00Nothing new here. USAT has been doing it for years...Nothing new here. USAT has been doing it for years. Craig Moon and Jackie Kelley did this quite unabashedly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-80944726411787432312012-03-07T17:35:41.173-05:002012-03-07T17:35:41.173-05:00Can we please stop all this hand-wringing and piet...Can we please stop all this hand-wringing and piety over news and ads? Newspapers still exist because they are a low-cost way to deliver advertising to a large audience. <br /><br />As for the supposed purity of print, go back a hundred or two hundred years. Papers were created to push political points of view or destroy opponents. When did "objectivity" become a selling point? Not thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-33879338863692766372012-03-07T14:34:57.564-05:002012-03-07T14:34:57.564-05:00really people waiting for the carriers to drop off...really people waiting for the carriers to drop off the paper. Must have been a big coupon day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-55772883400619593132012-03-07T14:33:56.294-05:002012-03-07T14:33:56.294-05:00We have to tag our political stories differently n...We have to tag our political stories differently now for the Web, due to new "sponsors." Not really sure what that means but it doesn't sound good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-54006119248172795132012-03-07T14:20:04.075-05:002012-03-07T14:20:04.075-05:00This tryst between journalism and advertising real...This tryst between journalism and advertising really isn't new in Gannett or anywhere else. This is many years back at another paper, mind you, but I wrote a feature about compulsive gambling.<br /><br />No casinos were specifically mentioned; the story was about locals with serious gambling problems, not casinos and certainly not any particular one. As far as I was concerned they were applesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-40638012841593428172012-03-07T13:59:06.347-05:002012-03-07T13:59:06.347-05:00Trust me, this is only the tip of the dirty iceber...Trust me, this is only the tip of the dirty iceberg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-66580740630780333272012-03-07T13:59:00.960-05:002012-03-07T13:59:00.960-05:00Trust me, this is only the tip of the dirty iceber...Trust me, this is only the tip of the dirty iceberg.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-20687586262118096082012-03-07T13:41:13.216-05:002012-03-07T13:41:13.216-05:00This is unconscionable. Is this really occurring?...This is unconscionable. Is this really occurring? I thought newspapers did things to firewall advertising from journalism and disclose or disclaim advertising that looked or appeared to be an article? Is this really occurring? Are there any ethical codes in journalism? Can anyone show a link proving this is occurring?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-72266313030284334452012-03-07T13:12:32.186-05:002012-03-07T13:12:32.186-05:00This sort of thing pretty much became standard pol...This sort of thing pretty much became standard policy the moment Gannett took over our established daily back in the 1990s. The arrival of a big department store chain in the area, complete with a week's worth of full pages and double truck ads in the front news section, was also accompanied by daily front page stories hyping the store. If any readers or editorial people still harbored Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-11242210018617980652012-03-07T13:01:35.286-05:002012-03-07T13:01:35.286-05:00Wow. A story about a deputy getting lkilled yester...Wow. A story about a deputy getting lkilled yesterday and Florida Today was all over it. The print had a good edition and back stories and all there was at press time. Good pictures too, although the city cops caught the perps, not the deputies as captioned under the front page pic. Actually reminded you of the old days when good reporting was the norm.<br /><br />Side note...people were waiting Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-13708445389186432122012-03-07T12:32:06.369-05:002012-03-07T12:32:06.369-05:00Come on Jim...They have been doing this for the pa...Come on Jim...They have been doing this for the past 5 years and it has gotten worse over the past 3 months. At the beginning of the year, Gracia Martore told Hunke and Dickey to start getting their "publishers in line" with the revenue plan. She also said that "editors need to learn about business". She was referring to the fact that newspapers will go under if editors don&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-72509966734979529662012-03-07T10:10:14.636-05:002012-03-07T10:10:14.636-05:00Don't see how this could hurt Gannett.
When it...Don't see how this could hurt Gannett.<br />When it comes to news reporting, they <i>already</i> have zero credibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-42855026281967410302012-03-07T09:57:26.868-05:002012-03-07T09:57:26.868-05:00I was trying to think of a word that best describe...I was trying to think of a word that best describes what Gannett's actions are turning into... and there it is, right at the top the first post says it all, "Pimping."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-15295994630191521022012-03-07T09:38:33.072-05:002012-03-07T09:38:33.072-05:00The problem is not announcing the openning or long...The problem is not announcing the openning or long lines. The problem shows up when it turns out if a certain sandwhich shop employee is adding his own special sauce or have a shady business practice and the station looks the other way because of pressure from the sales side. Even if they don't look the other way it could appear that they did because of the relatiobnship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-56401240143501504382012-03-07T08:41:54.653-05:002012-03-07T08:41:54.653-05:00The local small weekly here pimps news coverage fo...The local small weekly here pimps news coverage for advertising all the time.Hospital,nursing homes fair board,town events,etc,etc,are <br />promised coverage ONLY if they pay for pre-event and or post event advertising.No longer is there a separation of news and advertising departments.Freeken money whores<br />with no moral guidelines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-3559290911209845782012-03-07T08:38:04.379-05:002012-03-07T08:38:04.379-05:00Is that such a bad thing? When it comes to news, i...Is that such a bad thing? When it comes to news, it obviously is. But doing a travel feature on Fiji instead of, say, the Cayman Islands because of an ad partnership doesn't seem to be a threat to our journalistic integrity. As long as the content is serving the interest of our audience - and I'd argue a callout to a new H&M is serving our audience in many markets. <br /><br />I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com