tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post4888423906059047306..comments2023-11-05T06:26:51.316-05:00Comments on Gannett Blog: USAT | In 'knockout game,' a tale of two talesJim Hopkinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-88621280224555017692013-11-26T20:28:59.038-05:002013-11-26T20:28:59.038-05:00And there'd be no shortage of bloggers "n...And there'd be no shortage of bloggers "noting the pattern." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-91536372849226471992013-11-26T10:47:49.873-05:002013-11-26T10:47:49.873-05:00Remember USA Today's standout work on the &quo...Remember USA Today's standout work on the "racist church burnings" in the 1990s? And the New York Times' great job on those racist rapists on the Duke lacrosse team? Er, check that.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-71397827194043671312013-11-25T11:15:49.734-05:002013-11-25T11:15:49.734-05:00Comparing USA Today with the New York Times isn...Comparing USA Today with the New York Times isn't fair. The NYT is a professional news organization that still honors objectivity and other journalistic values. USAT is a Gannett product (that says all you need to know) that is more concerned about gimmicks, marketing and getting rid of experience journalists. There might have been a time when the journalistic gap between the two was closing,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-42988559562271179272013-11-24T21:30:44.813-05:002013-11-24T21:30:44.813-05:00If these were gays being beaten it would be a diff...If these were gays being beaten it would be a different story, and it would lead USA Today. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-40031134922906024052013-11-24T21:00:45.513-05:002013-11-24T21:00:45.513-05:00One thing's for sure: Scrolling through the 55...One thing's for sure: Scrolling through the 550 comments on USAT's story shows readers definitely think race is a factor. (And if you think comment threads on this blog are rough, just read some of those.)Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-71653044824668311292013-11-24T20:52:46.075-05:002013-11-24T20:52:46.075-05:00And to answer your question, 8:05 (assuming it'...And to answer your question, 8:05 (assuming it's directed at me): I've now read the USAT story three times. The only person saying these incidents have "racial overtones" is the reporter.<br /><br />Please read the story again, and you'll see race is not mentioned as a factor by anyone else. As I wrote just above, the man charged with a hate crime "made an anti-Semitic Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-51136419948474298492013-11-24T20:36:29.902-05:002013-11-24T20:36:29.902-05:00Here's the USAT passage about the hate crime c...Here's the USAT passage about the hate crime charge: "In New York, police have charged Amrit Marajh, 28, with two felony hate crimes after they said he assaulted a 24-year-old Jewish man wearing a yarmulke Friday in Brooklyn, NYPD Sgt. Carlos Nieves said.<br /><br />"Marajh, who is Trinidadian, was talking about the knockout game with three other men and made an anti-Semitic Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-55884637140358662842013-11-24T20:34:10.625-05:002013-11-24T20:34:10.625-05:00While you're waiting for that paper to never b...While you're waiting for that paper to <i>never be launched</i>, you can always read <a href="http://goodgannettblog.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">this blog.</a>Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-25889550561584698722013-11-24T20:05:13.514-05:002013-11-24T20:05:13.514-05:00Did you read the frigging story?Did you read the frigging story?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-9617938208646230492013-11-24T19:57:17.809-05:002013-11-24T19:57:17.809-05:00You're trying to make people believe your orig...You're trying to make people believe your original posts didnt imply that USA Today had fucked up. That pig doesn't fly. Of course if it came down to one must have news source,hands down, it would be the NYT. That's not the point, Jim.<br /><br /><br />Plenty to criticize at Usa Today, from sports, money and website to boneheaded editor decisions. Just not on this one, Jimbo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-32124309321406333622013-11-24T19:55:41.016-05:002013-11-24T19:55:41.016-05:00So write that in your original post. Not that hard...So write that in your original post. Not that hard.<br /><br />To answer your other question, I will get a lifetime subscription to whatever paper looks at your history with Gannett, looks into why you have an ax to grind, and then reports it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-40224910895734176252013-11-24T19:42:33.886-05:002013-11-24T19:42:33.886-05:00In fact, there are plenty of reasons for me to imp...In fact, there are plenty of reasons for me to imply the NYT's story is wrong. The press critic Jack Shafer <a href="http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/making-sense-of-news/105778/how-slates-jack-shafer-calls-out-bogus-trend-stories/" rel="nofollow">regularly called out the Times</a> for bogus trend stories like the one about more and more <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2201764/" rel="Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-11336137171840139222013-11-24T19:16:24.116-05:002013-11-24T19:16:24.116-05:00By context. Don't play dumb. You just make you...By context. Don't play dumb. You just make yourself look even more ridiculous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-1992960092595271192013-11-24T18:53:12.051-05:002013-11-24T18:53:12.051-05:00Where and how do I imply one newspaper is more acc...Where and how do I imply one newspaper is more accurate than the other?Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-79845307151236060682013-11-24T18:50:37.696-05:002013-11-24T18:50:37.696-05:00Does anyone in USAT's story say the hate crime...Does anyone in USAT's story say the hate crime was based on race?Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-17140037697342752322013-11-24T18:20:39.666-05:002013-11-24T18:20:39.666-05:00You imply wrongly that there is some sort of made ...You imply wrongly that there is some sort of made up premise here or that the facts dont back up the piece. You are wrong, Jim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-21761555523536026502013-11-24T18:18:50.604-05:002013-11-24T18:18:50.604-05:00The story attributes the hate crime aspect to the ...The story attributes the hate crime aspect to the New York attacks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-42598640187420601672013-11-24T18:01:15.859-05:002013-11-24T18:01:15.859-05:00I'm not calling it anything because I don'...I'm not calling it anything because I don't have any first-hand information. That's up to the police and courts to determine.<br /><br />My post was intended to show how two national publications can arrive at mirror-opposite conclusions based on the same publicly available information.Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-5860108781310572842013-11-24T17:56:59.300-05:002013-11-24T17:56:59.300-05:00To reiterate, my comment concerned this sentence: ...To reiterate, my comment concerned this sentence: "The attacks in New York have racial overtones because the attackers are black and the victims have been Jewish."<br /><br />1. That's a sentence that cried out for attribution. Who says there are racial overtones? The police? Victims? Witnesses?<br /><br />2. The implication is there are no black Jews, that the victims were by Jim Hopkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-40696393119634686742013-11-24T17:14:48.391-05:002013-11-24T17:14:48.391-05:00This is a game to the jerkwads who are hitting the...This is a game to the jerkwads who are hitting the unsuspecting. What would you call this, Jim?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-51572063734291609452013-11-24T16:51:07.057-05:002013-11-24T16:51:07.057-05:00This is also a trend, at least in New Haven, where...This is also a trend, at least in New Haven, where a half dozen incidents have happened and there does appear some sort of concerted effort. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-57528173879532123742013-11-24T16:49:17.965-05:002013-11-24T16:49:17.965-05:00Jim, ill preface this by saying im a longtime fan ...Jim, ill preface this by saying im a longtime fan of the blog. Most of the time. But USAT got into trouble for a racially tinged headline on a stoey about box office numbers. This is a news story, and it clearly states that suspects have been arrested on hate crime charges.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-68911470067949762932013-11-24T16:34:37.265-05:002013-11-24T16:34:37.265-05:00Way to enforce that no-insult policy at 9:14, Jim....Way to enforce that no-insult policy at 9:14, Jim. You suck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-2546485811535386012013-11-24T00:57:31.962-05:002013-11-24T00:57:31.962-05:00Apparently you missed your first damn clue, Jim. Apparently you missed your first damn clue, Jim. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-84272330480965517382013-11-23T21:35:56.349-05:002013-11-23T21:35:56.349-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com