tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post3422656691566779744..comments2023-11-05T06:26:51.316-05:00Comments on Gannett Blog: March 26-April 1 | Your News & Comments: Part 6Jim Hopkinshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16712746705871119746noreply@blogger.comBlogger82125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-71733916717612191252012-04-02T09:33:07.269-04:002012-04-02T09:33:07.269-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-20018744763551993132012-04-01T21:38:01.321-04:002012-04-01T21:38:01.321-04:007:51 - oh, where to begin.
Where is there any be...7:51 - oh, where to begin. <br /><br />Where is there any benefit to GWM or Gannett as a whole if Walker stays or goes? <br /><br />How is disciplining 25 people for publicly not respecting the standards of their profession going to suppress the PRIVATE vote of them or the other thousand-plus GWM employees?<br /><br />How is 1:38 'actively doing what he/she can to suppress a recall vote' Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-57164717350226732662012-04-01T21:24:35.499-04:002012-04-01T21:24:35.499-04:007:51 PM - You seem like the type who'd rather ...7:51 PM - You seem like the type who'd rather die than take advice, but here's some anyway: Stop digging.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-58559195735900287082012-04-01T19:51:48.764-04:002012-04-01T19:51:48.764-04:001:38, you already are ethically challenged because...1:38, you already are ethically challenged because you are a Walker supporter who is actively doing what's available to you secretly to suppress the recall vote. <br /><br />How do you justify your strong partisan feelings -- so much so you pit this as an "us vs. them"-- as suited for objective journalism just because you keep it secret?! <br /><br />On the other hand, those who Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-31745791502507951262012-04-01T17:20:05.458-04:002012-04-01T17:20:05.458-04:00You know how all Catholic priests are the butt of ...You know how all Catholic priests are the butt of jokes, derided and suspected of doing unspeakable things?<br /><br />It's a result of a small percentage of bad characters, and the 'corporate' effort of the Church to cover up the issue over many years.<br /><br />The difference here is the lapse of good judgement isn't whitewashed by our leadership. Unfortunately, the bad Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-64994870911967020582012-04-01T17:13:21.243-04:002012-04-01T17:13:21.243-04:001:38 here. I'm the writer who works in an over...1:38 here. I'm the writer who works in an overwhelmingly conservative county who now has to start every interview with a query from the interviewee on whether I was one of "Them".<br /><br />I'm the writer in an overwhelming liberal district whose senator decided to flee to Illinois rather than do their job, and I wouldn't sign their recall petition because it would have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-52713715174424476212012-04-01T16:33:59.208-04:002012-04-01T16:33:59.208-04:00As to the signers of the recall petition. The ave...As to the signers of the recall petition. The average reader doesn't give a rats ass. All this kvetching is inside baseball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-10253781972696585472012-04-01T15:23:37.310-04:002012-04-01T15:23:37.310-04:00Interesting statement from 1:38: "There are 1...Interesting statement from 1:38: "There are 141 journalists in Wisconsin who either support the governor or support the ethics of their profession - but because the Wisconsin 25 have NOT been named in the papers, they are assumed to be biased by the majority of readers who won't bother to look up the names themselves."<br /><br />First, you confess that those who didn't sign mayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-62433843288446396742012-04-01T15:17:05.770-04:002012-04-01T15:17:05.770-04:00Well, 1:38 PM, those Wisconsin Gannett editors jus...Well, 1:38 PM, those Wisconsin Gannett editors just told all their readers that, after they endorsed Walker for governor, they are now going to punish workers who asserted their civic right and responsibility to participate in an official election process that might unseat him.<br /><br />Who did the more damage to the media company's credibility: the journo who might hypothetically tell a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-88938710932715429502012-04-01T15:00:46.522-04:002012-04-01T15:00:46.522-04:00Will you people, or person posting as if you are m...Will you people, or person posting as if you are multiple people, please stop demeaning those whose opinions differ from you. <br /><br />Cracks like "putative journalist" and "if you want to work as an ethical journalist" are not a respectful way to treat a fellow journalist, if we can assume you are a journalist.<br /><br />The whole purpose of the ubiquitous but vague Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-10593010772317999872012-04-01T14:40:41.038-04:002012-04-01T14:40:41.038-04:0011:29 - the key phrase in that statute is VOTE AT ...11:29 - the key phrase in that statute is VOTE AT AN ELECTION. No one told those 25 in the newsroom how to vote. They all need to be disciplined and if they question the discipline they should be fired.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-21425053084803131222012-04-01T13:38:22.227-04:002012-04-01T13:38:22.227-04:00Go tell your neighbor you signed the petition and ...Go tell your neighbor you signed the petition and that you're an impartial journalist and see what they have to say about it.<br /><br />Now imagine people who call themselves impartial journalists publicly supported something anathema to your very core, and you're all painted with the same brush.<br /><br />There are 141 journalists in Wisconsin who either support the governor or supportAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-54580644366805875722012-04-01T11:29:13.490-04:002012-04-01T11:29:13.490-04:00On the question of legal civil rights that came up...On the question of legal civil rights that came up earlier, I googled and found an informative article by Dave Saldana, who describes himself as "journalist, attorney, educator." It says, in part:<br /><br />"While Gannett blithely allows that its employees have the right to vote, it differentiates here because the petitions are public record. Their staffers, accused of a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-48621607625840460752012-04-01T11:17:01.628-04:002012-04-01T11:17:01.628-04:0011:02, plenty of people in my newsroom vote in pri...11:02, plenty of people in my newsroom vote in primaries, without disciplinary action. I've checked voter registration histories and know that for a fact. It's public record, just like this petition. <br /><br />It's also not newsworthy, just like this petition's signers.<br /><br />Isn't voting in a declared party primary on public record worse than simply giving official Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-54305891351172146442012-04-01T10:47:25.322-04:002012-04-01T10:47:25.322-04:00Sorry, you worked in advertisingSorry, you worked in advertisingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-81920388298588706562012-04-01T08:30:37.467-04:002012-04-01T08:30:37.467-04:00McDonalds could require wearing the uniform 24/7 a...McDonalds could require wearing the uniform 24/7 as a condition of employment. Unless it went against a person's religion, it's perfectly legal.<br /><br />Remember that for six decades male facial hair was specifically prohibited for Disney theme park employees. Though it's allowed now, it still can be no longer than a quarter inch.<br /><br />Calling it slavery is ridiculous. No oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-84034249186971014462012-04-01T00:57:44.882-04:002012-04-01T00:57:44.882-04:001:58 You worked in production. You have no clue ab...1:58 You worked in production. You have no clue about what self imposed rules journalists work under. This is a clear violation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-58721835662970993812012-03-31T23:02:30.277-04:002012-03-31T23:02:30.277-04:00Ethics is supposed to be taught to those who want ...Ethics is supposed to be taught to those who want to be journalists in school. At least that's the way it used to be. But there are way too many people commenting here that don't get it at all which leaves me to wonder, is it all but forgotten. People can't spell anymore, many can't write anymore, and now the ethics are down the drain. It's sad for the industry. You should Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-70205698213585470242012-03-31T20:01:24.163-04:002012-03-31T20:01:24.163-04:00@924 -- way way up the list -- well said. Excellen...@924 -- way way up the list -- well said. Excellent analysis. The company honchos may come to regret these cut-the-gray decisions, but so far I don't see it. Readers do regret the cuts, but company honchos aren't really in tune with readers much. They're in tune with each other - well, as much as they can tune anything.<br /><br />Thanks for your post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-83768113231778610482012-03-31T16:58:07.204-04:002012-03-31T16:58:07.204-04:00I don't see where left or right, conservative ...I don't see where left or right, conservative or liberal, have anything to do with any of this. I think those are false dichotomies, contrived for the sake of keeping the people stupid and in contention with each other while the foxes raid all of our chicken houses.<br /><br />I'm sorry, 2:27, but the ethical issue is anything but straightfoward. <br /><br />The multinational Gannett Co.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-46154386912244378212012-03-31T16:03:40.152-04:002012-03-31T16:03:40.152-04:0012:27 - walker is a conservative Republican, I thi...12:27 - walker is a conservative Republican, I think you meant if he were a liberal Democrat that was the target of the petition all the newsroom lefties would have been screaming for blood. and you are right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-59358263543525668282012-03-31T14:42:46.419-04:002012-03-31T14:42:46.419-04:009:41, please leave the subject of journalism to re...9:41, please leave the subject of journalism to real working journalists. Aren't you still running beach photos shot last summer? When do expect Brevard Times to receive any advertising? And do you actually have a design plan or just throw up anything wherever it fits?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-59263234241998960082012-03-31T14:27:08.955-04:002012-03-31T14:27:08.955-04:002:06 PM - As has been explained repeatedly, the et...2:06 PM - As has been explained repeatedly, the ethical issue ultimately is pretty straightforward, and anyone who doesn't get it has no business working in a newsroom.<br /><br />As 12:27 PM rightly points out, if the other guy's ox were being gored, you and your ilk would be howling over it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-85783029543209841112012-03-31T14:06:43.201-04:002012-03-31T14:06:43.201-04:00Our readers are passionate about religion, too. Fo...Our readers are passionate about religion, too. Following the "ethical guidelines" leads me to wonder if it's ethical for a Buddhist photographer to shoot a Catholic Church service, or an atheist reporter to write about homeschoolers. Wouldn't their inherent bias show through? Or are they truly professionals who can cast their bias aside when they're working?<br /><br />Let&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8099437767970534324.post-29719870752285806922012-03-31T14:00:03.355-04:002012-03-31T14:00:03.355-04:0012:03 PM - No, the word is sex, s-e-x. Gender is f...12:03 PM - No, the word is sex, s-e-x. Gender is for grammar. Sex is for people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com